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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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I am having a problem with my clutch engagement. When I let the clutch out it is like it kicks. I put in a newer(1 month old) clutch and throwout bearing when I did my B20 swap(about 3 months ago) and it still kicks. When it kicks I can hear like a clunk/click noise. It has done it ever since I got the car. Any ideas on why it would be engaging harsh like it does? I am having a problem with the transmission grinding when upshifting too. Could these problems be related?
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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It can be internal problem with the transmission. Did you happen to check the condition of the pilot bearing/ flywheel while you had the clutch off? Or are you the type of person that doesn't care about the huge patches of burn marks on your flywheel and throws their brand new clutch on? The clutch may not be fully engaging during shifts depending on if you bled the clutch fluid after the install. What trans fluid are you using?
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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It can be internal problem with the transmission. Did you happen to check the condition of the pilot bearing/ flywheel while you had the clutch off? Or are you the type of person that doesn't care about the huge patches of burn marks on your flywheel and throws their brand new clutch on? The clutch may not be fully engaging during shifts depending on if you bled the clutch fluid after the install. What trans fluid are you using?
The flywheel is newer(1 month old when installed)I had that resurfaced before installing it too. I'm not sure how the pilot bearing was. That is the little bearing right in the center of the flywheel right? It's a cable clutch. New cable was installed a month ago.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Yes that little bearing in the flywheel is the release bearing and I am glad you re-surfaced the Flywheel. Did you grease the splines and the middle of the throwout bearing?
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Yes that little bearing in the flywheel is the release bearing and I am glad you re-surfaced the Flywheel. Did you grease the splines and the middle of the throwout bearing?
No. I did'nt grease the splines. Are you suppose to? I don't remember the Haynes manual saying anything about it. Man it is just wierd, it's a stock replacement clutch and it kicks.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Yes. Grease the living hell out of where the throwout rides. Use high-temp grease (wheel bearing grease will work just fine)
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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check your clutch cable also to make sure that its not sticking. it may be fine until you hit a certain point and then sieze up.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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Yes. Grease the living hell out of where the throwout rides. Use high-temp grease (wheel bearing grease will work just fine)
Ok. I'll have to do that.

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check your clutch cable also to make sure that its not sticking. it may be fine until you hit a certain point and then sieze up.
Well it's a new clutch cable.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Ok. I'll have to do that.




Well it's a new clutch cable.
it still can be somewhat siezed/ frozen up. I would check it out before you take the trans off
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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it still can be somewhat siezed/ frozen up. I would check it out before you take the trans off
Ok. How would you reccomend checking it? Just taking it off the arm on the trans and having someone press in the pedal?
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fv8s
Yes. Grease the living hell out of where the throwout rides. Use high-temp grease (wheel bearing grease will work just fine)
Be careful NOT to put too much grease. Too much grease will cause it to spay onto the clutch surface and cause lots of problems later on.

The splines of the clutch should be lightly greased as well.

On cable tranny's ensure that the release fork spring is sitting in the correct position. If that spring is not fitted right, you may have rough engagement along with wierd clunking sounds (sounds like your problem to me). Also the release fork pin should be taken out, inspected and greased as well.
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Be careful NOT to put too much grease. Too much grease will cause it to spay onto the clutch surface and cause lots of problems later on.

The splines of the clutch should be lightly greased as well.

On cable tranny's ensure that the release fork spring is sitting in the correct position. If that spring is not fitted right, you may have rough engagement along with wierd clunking sounds (sounds like your problem to me). Also the release fork pin should be taken out, inspected and greased as well.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by speedoptions.ca
Be careful NOT to put too much grease. Too much grease will cause it to spay onto the clutch surface and cause lots of problems later on.

The splines of the clutch should be lightly greased as well.

On cable tranny's ensure that the release fork spring is sitting in the correct position. If that spring is not fitted right, you may have rough engagement along with wierd clunking sounds (sounds like your problem to me). Also the release fork pin should be taken out, inspected and greased as well.
Where is the release fork located? Inside or outside the transmission? I'm assuming outside?
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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both. it comes out of the dust boot (slave cylinder) pushes it in.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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both. it comes out of the dust boot (slave cylinder) pushes it in.
Ok nevermind my last post. I found a diagram that shows. It's right by where the throwout bearing is located. How should that spring look when properly situated on there though?
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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before you do all that you should do a clutch adjustment...every time u change ur clutch ur supposed to adjust ur clutch cable for "free play"...this is what be causing ur hash engagement
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Oreo-TeCk
before you do all that you should do a clutch adjustment...every time u change ur clutch ur supposed to adjust ur clutch cable for "free play"...this is what be causing ur hash engagement
It was adjusted to specs. Man it is a wierd problem, with having the harsh engagement and the grinding going into gear. Like I can let the rpm's drop and upshift into the next gear and it still won't go in smooth. I'm starting to wonder if the problems are related, maybe that release fork spring is messed up and causing the clutch to not operate correctly, causing the grinding when shifting.
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