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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Hey whats up. I'm a fairly new rider and super stoked to finally have a bike again. its a 01 Yamaha r6. I also decided to buy a shoei helmet which I love so far. I'm basically self teaching myself and have been doing well so far... I could use some good advice on turning and remembering what gear I'm in . BTW anybody In socal want to help me get better and ride lmk

well here are some pics. I always like to view pics and I'm sure some of you do too


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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Nice one!

I could use some good advice on turning and remembering what gear I'm in
Well when riding at normal speeds turning is done by countersteering, so if you wanna turn right you have to turn the handlebars to the left which will tilt the bike to the right and turn that way. Low speed turning is done by turning to the side you wanna turn and then slipping the clutch and using the rear brake to stabilize it. As for remembering the gearing, well.. heh even I dont sometimes remember which gear I am in, usually I try to upshift from 6th ;P
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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I can feel nationwide insurance premiums rising already in anticipation of another "New and totally stoked" rider mounting up to his speed machine.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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nice bike and helmet.

do yourself a favor and take the msf course, it will help you greatly.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Well when riding at normal speeds turning is done by countersteering, so if you wanna turn right you have to turn the handlebars to the left which will tilt the bike to the right and turn that way. Low speed turning is done by turning to the side you wanna turn and then slipping the clutch and using the rear brake to stabilize it. As for remembering the gearing, well.. heh even I dont sometimes remember which gear I am in, usually I try to upshift from 6th ;P
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I can feel nationwide insurance premiums rising already in anticipation of another "New and totally stoked" rider mounting up to his speed machine.
hopefully not. I'm not a stupid rider like other ppl when they buy their first bike. I'm just happy to have a bike. I haven't even taken it past 40. I'm sure everybody is excited(stoked) when they purchase their first bike.

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nice bike and helmet.

do yourself a favor and take the msf course, it will help you greatly.
On the to do list. by Tuesday I will go in and see what is needed to start.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 07:21 AM
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I got McGraw insurance for my bike..cheapest motorcycle insurance for me and they are are based in socal
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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I'll give them a call. So far most have expensive for me
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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MSF! and if your bike keeps shutting off when you put it in gear, check your kickstand. you can thank me later.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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MSF! and if your bike keeps shutting off when you put it in gear, check your kickstand. you can thank me later.
oh It doesn't shut off. I just forget what gear I'm on while riding... My dad just picked up a kawa-caca ill try to get a quick pic of it...

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 03:26 AM
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i hope you don't ride off with the kickstand down and make a left turn. why would somebody disable that? or did the 01s not come with that
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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i hope you don't ride off with the kickstand down and make a left turn. why would somebody disable that? or did the 01s not come with that
my bad I guess I kind of confused you. I don't ride with the kick stand down. that's pretty much the first thing I put up. Yeah the 01s do have that sensor that causes the bike to shut off when in gear and the stand down.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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i think you confused yourself. read back how the posts went, and pay attention to what people are saying instead of thinking you know.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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i think you confused yourself. read back how the posts went, and pay attention to what people are saying instead of thinking you know.
Iv had good advice to take the MSF course, tips on turning and insurance. you're the one that just came in telling me to check my kick stand which has nothing to do with with this thread.

Edit: anyways not trying to get on anybody's bad side. Thanks for the advice ^^^

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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I'm looking for extra security for the bikes. what do you guys think of these?
http://www.lockitt.com/xn/10xxseriespg.htm#prod
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Flashmn
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Well when riding at normal speeds turning is done by countersteering, so if you wanna turn right you have to turn the handlebars to the left which will tilt the bike to the right and turn that way. Low speed turning is done by turning to the side you wanna turn and then slipping the clutch and using the rear brake to stabilize it. As for remembering the gearing, well.. heh even I dont sometimes remember which gear I am in, usually I try to upshift from 6th ;P
umm i dont think you should pay attention to that jus yet and for me at least i NEVER use the brake or clutch on a turn i wanna keep as much contact on the tires to the road soooo gl w that but thats something i would rather hear from keith code lol

the msf course is stupid but usefull to beginer riders
any locks are kew bro but jus like in the honda game if they really want your issshhh there nothing stoppin two guys from liftin it and throwin it in the back of a pickup
tips umm to be honest get out and ride thats the best tip put miles on your bike and remember wherever you look its where your bike will go lol
and like the cliche says theres 2 types of riders
riders that have gone and riders that will go down
sux but thats part of the sport not sayin it will be ur error jus alot of elemets you need to watch out for on two wheels and if you cant remember your gear and stoplights it doesnt hurt to shift down like 50 times to make sure ur in first lol then a half click up ur be chillen on neutral
and wen your riding jus listen to your biek itll tell you
insurance side imo for the yr and value id just get liability bro depending on your driving record
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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umm i dont think you should pay attention to that jus yet and for me at least i NEVER use the brake or clutch on a turn
Thats really basic 101 slow speed turning, they teach that in the first theory and first actual riding class for license qualification here. You use the clutch to prevent the engine from stalling as you're going under the minimum speed where the engine can idle and you use the rear brake to stabilize the bike, as you keep some load on the engine and control the speed with it.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by eg2jr
Iv had good advice to take the MSF course, tips on turning and insurance. you're the one that just came in telling me to check my kick stand which has nothing to do with with this thread.

Edit: anyways not trying to get on anybody's bad side. Thanks for the advice ^^^
i said MSF. i also gave you advice on what i've heard a lot of people have done: had their kickstand down and didn't realize why the bike either wouldn't start or shut off when putting it in gear. even my MSF instructor had done it. i'm sorry that you're the expert on here that hasn't done it.

and it's very rude to tell somebody that they're confused when you are the one that didn't realize what they said.

msf

edit: and it's usually a NEW RIDER that will leave the kickstand down, so i believe it's has a lot to do with this thread.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Flashmn
Thats really basic 101 slow speed turning, they teach that in the first theory and first actual riding class for license qualification here. You use the clutch to prevent the engine from stalling as you're going under the minimum speed where the engine can idle and you use the rear brake to stabilize the bike, as you keep some load on the engine and control the speed with it.
i agree. if you've been riding for awhile, you need to get used to not using the clutch or brake. those turns and the crazy 8s should be easily done at idle and kept tight.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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to clarify sure pull in the clutch to prevent your bike from shuttin off isnt that common knowledge thats good info for goin like 5 mph this is HT so we can assume he has a basic understandin of manuel transmission but hes askin advice for ridin so we should base our advise for him for city ridin or at least specify low speeds to a common indvidual could be like 20mph and on a lean pullin in the clutch wouldnt stablize the bike at all
and my point about countersteering thats advice for a novice rider not a beginer how confusin is it when your first learnin how to ride for someone to say if you wanna go left push right and vice virsa lets get him the basics down then when hes confortable lets improve his technique is all im sayin
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Yes, but that skill is very useful in tight places where you cant even get up to 20mph, such as a parking garage, traffic, mall parking lot, pedestrian crossings, etc. As for countersteering, theres no if or buts, thats the only PROPER way to turn corners, theres no learning to "ride his own style", if he learns the wrong way its really hard to re-learn the right way.

I dont know about you guys over there, but over here the licensing course we have is alot different from the MSF as far as I've understood, here you have to do it in order to get licensed to ride a bike and it consists of 3 exams, written, handling and road riding. The toughest is the handling exam, because it consists of 6 exercises, 2 which are the ones you need to use the clutch/throttle/brake technique to pass, so thats why that skill is taught right there at the beginning, as you can only try it twice, if you fail twice, then you have to retake the whole 6...

This is the slalom part, not so easy when you do it with a 600cc, as you have to have minimum of 47hp.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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that is a much tighter slalom than what was at my MSF course. i don't know if i could have done that the first day i was riding.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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zzz. not sure what the bickering is about.

just go out and take the MSF.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMKAY
umm i dont think you should pay attention to that jus yet and for me at least i NEVER use the brake or clutch on a turn i wanna keep as much contact on the tires to the road soooo gl w that but thats something i would rather hear from keith code lol

the msf course is stupid but usefull to beginer riders
any locks are kew bro but jus like in the honda game if they really want your issshhh there nothing stoppin two guys from liftin it and throwin it in the back of a pickup
tips umm to be honest get out and ride thats the best tip put miles on your bike and remember wherever you look its where your bike will go lol
and like the cliche says theres 2 types of riders
riders that have gone and riders that will go down
sux but thats part of the sport not sayin it will be ur error jus alot of elemets you need to watch out for on two wheels and if you cant remember your gear and stoplights it doesnt hurt to shift down like 50 times to make sure ur in first lol then a half click up ur be chillen on neutral
and wen your riding jus listen to your biek itll tell you
insurance side imo for the yr and value id just get liability bro depending on your driving record
good luck and hope u enjoy ur bike



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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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1GPlusSH, We get 6 hours of supervised riding practice before the actual riding exams, the written one is taken after 6 hours of classes. Its pretty thorough, but since I've had my drivers license for a car beforehand I just got to do the 6+6, if I'd do the motorcycle license before car license (you can get a max 11kw bike license at 16 and a max 25kw bike license at 18), then you have to do the whole 9 yards which is alot more than what I did.

The cost for just the license for me was 600 euros, which was the cheapest I could find and some places want >1000euros for the course.
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Originally Posted by Flashmn
Yes, but that skill is very useful in tight places where you cant even get up to 20mph, such as a parking garage, traffic, mall parking lot, pedestrian crossings, etc. As for countersteering, theres no if or buts, thats the only PROPER way to turn corners, theres no learning to "ride his own style", if he learns the wrong way its really hard to re-learn the right way.

I dont know about you guys over there, but over here the licensing course we have is alot different from the MSF as far as I've understood, here you have to do it in order to get licensed to ride a bike and it consists of 3 exams, written, handling and road riding. The toughest is the handling exam, because it consists of 6 exercises, 2 which are the ones you need to use the clutch/throttle/brake technique to pass, so thats why that skill is taught right there at the beginning, as you can only try it twice, if you fail twice, then you have to retake the whole 6...

This is the slalom part, not so easy when you do it with a 600cc, as you have to have minimum of 47hp.
this kid is from cali....why would he care what someone in finland HAD to do?
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