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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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i was wondering where could i get oem colors in a spray can?? also how many cans do you think i would need for a integra 98-01 type-r lip? also since im buying a brand new Poly Urethane and before i prime it do i need to do anything to the lip?
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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http://www.paintscratch.com/
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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http://www.automotivetouchup.com/spray_paint.asp where I got mine.

I got one can of paint and clear. It seemed ike enough but next time I'll prob use to cans. I'd also buy some adhesion promotor
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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I have painted a side view mirror before using paint from www.touchuppaintonline.com. Match was really good and I think they have the lowest prices out of all the stores, at least when I looked it was.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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geebus! 20 bucks for one can plus 10 dollar shipping..
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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i heard if u go to an automotive paint store they can actually mix paint for u and put it in a rattle can... someone please correct me if im wrong
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by buymesomedunks
geebus! 20 bucks for one can plus 10 dollar shipping..
Paint is not cheap, although any price for spray paint is cheap compared to real paint.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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geebus! 20 bucks for one can plus 10 dollar shipping..
$30 well spent when the paint matches and lasts for years like mine has.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gorillafart
i heard if u go to an automotive paint store they can actually mix paint for u and put it in a rattle can... someone please correct me if im wrong
I did this once. It cost an arm and a leg, but it was good paint. If I had to do it again I would order online and save a buttload of money.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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I bought a can from www.touchuppaintonline.com maybe 6 months ago to paint a roof spoiler. Total for 1 can came out to be about $22-23 with shipping, not bad at all.

The match and quality was good too, but it does take a little work to do it obviously. I hate body shops because they almost always over charge by a lot.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbear
I bought a can from www.touchuppaintonline.com maybe 6 months ago to paint a roof spoiler. Total for 1 can came out to be about $22-23 with shipping, not bad at all.

The match and quality was good too, but it does take a little work to do it obviously. I hate body shops because they almost always over charge by a lot.
Why would you hate body shops for doing things the correct way? To properly paint an automotive part, you must use materials that are relatively expensive and you must use a skill set that takes years to perfect. Both of those things translate into a relatively expensive process. You must pay the price to have an item painted properly. Of course there's always spray paint, but that's doing it incorrectly. The materials that you get out of a rattle can are inferior quality to real automotive paint. If you actually care about your car, rattle can paint is not an option.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbear
I bought a can from www.touchuppaintonline.com I hate body shops because they almost always over charge by a lot.
shops half to charge a good amount of money for work. it's just the way it is. everything from wax and grease remover base clear prep materials and the tech that does the work.

shop owners do want profit but the process is costly no matter what. this is the truth
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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An auto paint store has awesome quality paint they can put into a rattle can for you. That cheap duplicolor "perfect match" is crap compared to this stuff. It all boils down to getting what you pay for. I'm in the process of painting my lip too, and $20 for paint is a hellava lot better than buying a new lip Goodluck!
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Napa does spray colour in a can for $20
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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If you buy automotive basecoat from a shop or store that's put into a rattle can for you you'll still end up with a half assed job. It's not about the color, it's about the clear. Without real urethane clear your part will look like crap. To get a quality result, you must buy real paint. Again, if you really care about your car then rattle can paint of any kind is not an option.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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think i gotta disagree with you dc2.. yes, you're right about rattle can being cheaper and "inproper" but by no means is it not "real paint" or does the quality differ if it's done right.. paint isn't just paint, but rattle can paint does not lack as much as you think. I once painted a motorcycle gas tank with a black rattle can, then sprayed 3 coats of clear with a spray gun. cut and buffed, waxed.. it turned out better than most other paint jobs, to this day i'm sure it's still holding up

this was just around the time the clear dried.. yes it was outside as well with dust blowing around, after i was finish with it, it was outstanding..
(by no means do i recommend painting like this if you dont know what you're doing, just an example, also, this is not how i regularly paint, the guy was in a rush, i ran out of black and he said rattle can was fine)
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and now that i think about it, that picture was of a baseball sized dent that i fixed that i fixed in my first year of doing body, quite proud of myself haha
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dontoh
think i gotta disagree with you dc2.. yes, you're right about rattle can being cheaper and "inproper" but by no means is it not "real paint" or does the quality differ if it's done right.. paint isn't just paint, but rattle can paint does not lack as much as you think. I once painted a motorcycle gas tank with a black rattle can, then sprayed 3 coats of clear with a spray gun. cut and buffed, waxed.. it turned out better than most other paint jobs, to this day i'm sure it's still holding up

this was just around the time the clear dried.. yes it was outside as well with dust blowing around, after i was finish with it, it was outstanding..
(by no means do i recommend painting like this if you dont know what you're doing, just an example, also, this is not how i regularly paint, the guy was in a rush, i ran out of black and he said rattle can was fine)

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and now that i think about it, that picture was of a baseball sized dent that i fixed that i fixed in my first year of doing body, quite proud of myself haha
Do you at least understand my point that it's not the color which usually gives a crap-looking result, it's the clear. Rattle can clear is not going to give you a result anywhere near the finish of the rest of your car, so it's not an option if you care about doing it right.

Also, your tank was black. You can get a decent looking basecoat result with a solid color quite easily. Start trying to match a metallic or pearl basecoat color with rattle can paint and you're going to have a hell of a time getting it to look good. Even if you manage to get the base looking ok, you still need real automotive clear on top or else it's going to look like hell after a short while exposed to the sun and/or rain.

I'm just so incredibly against doing things half assed. Even if I didn't work in the industry I'd still be annoyed hearing people talk about rattle can painting... it's just not the proper way to do it. Every time I read about it on here or here someone talking about doing it on something I just get that 'nails on a chalkboard' feeling. It's terrible looking and I don't see how people can still consider doing it to a car that they want to be proud of and show off. People seem so obsessed with building motors and the rest of their car the right way but then they cheap out on paint. It doesn't make any sense. i dunno.. just a pet peeve of mine. lol
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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i absolutely agree with everything you just said^.. i did use quality clear on the tank, and i gotta admit, before i did that you can tell it was sketchy lol

i understand your pet peeve too, except i think most of the people who do rattle can paint do it to show that they have so much pride in they're car (yes i know) that even with rattle can they'll take their time and do it right.. i've got nothing against spray paint, it's people that half *** things and cut corners that are the problem
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DC2.2_GSR
If you buy automotive basecoat from a shop or store that's put into a rattle can for you you'll still end up with a half assed job. It's not about the color, it's about the clear. Without real urethane clear your part will look like crap. To get a quality result, you must buy real paint. Again, if you really care about your car then rattle can paint of any kind is not an option.
Hah?!

If you go to NAPA and buy a can of pre-matched paint in a rattle can, its not going to be base/clear. Its going to be a single stage acrylic-enamel that doesn't require clear. The real problem with it, is that its super old paint technology, and doesn't have the UV protectant properties that newer paints do. (even urethane single stage is way better) Also, if you **** it up, and its metallic like most paints are, you're not going to be able to wetsand and fix it.

Also, if OP thinks $30 is too much to have paint that matches, quit the car game.
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