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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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also do anyone know anythings about what wrong with the reverse not going in, when i putting it in reverse and letting go of clutch, it only grind, i try going it into first and then reverse really fast but still nothing, i try pushing car back and forth then in reverse, but still nothing, it only grind, does anyone have any idea what is wrong and what i need to replace

all gear shift perfect no grind at all. only reverse grind, but i did happen to miss shift on third gear on freeway while doing a high end race with a M3.
does anyone have any idea what is wrong and what i need to replace
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

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also do anyone know anythings about what wrong with the reverse not going in, when i putting it in reverse and letting go of clutch, it only grind, i try going it into first and then reverse really fast but still nothing, i try pushing car back and forth then in reverse, but still nothing, it only grind, does anyone have any idea what is wrong and what i need to replace

all gear shift perfect no grind at all. only reverse grind, but i did happen to miss shift on third gear on freeway while doing a high end race with a M3.
does anyone have any idea what is wrong and what i need to replace
Maybe VTAK kicked in during your losing race against an M3.

Rebuild the transmission, buy a new remanufactured unit, or live without reverse because that's the only way you'll get it in.

Search is your friend...it's a known fact that at around 95,000 miles your Preludes 5-speed transmission will fail you like that. Mine just did that about 4 weeks ago so I spent the extra money on adding a helical LSD. Get ready to fork out some $$$ if you can't do the rebuild yourself.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

Originally Posted by godslayer
Maybe VTAK kicked in during your losing race against an M3.

Rebuild the transmission, buy a new remanufactured unit, or live without reverse because that's the only way you'll get it in.

Search is your friend...it's a known fact that at around 95,000 miles your Preludes 5-speed transmission will fail you like that. Mine just did that about 4 weeks ago so I spent the extra money on adding a helical LSD. Get ready to fork out some $$$ if you can't do the rebuild yourself.
I have 206,000 miles on my transmission and its fine. I dont know where people fabricate these issues with H transmissions.

I did buy a blown M2B4 from a user here on honda tech ran it for 1300 miles and would get random 2nd gear grinds so i pulled it apart and it looked like a someone purposefully drove it with no fluid so back in the stocker went... and its 100 percent fine STILL to this day.

OP check the basics first, Fluid cables, etc if you cant find and issue with those it may be time for you to replace.. and learn how to shift!! Just kidding
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

read this thread:

http://www.preludeonline.com/f89/tip...nation-106113/
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by my9thtry
I have 206,000 miles on my transmission and its fine. I dont know where people fabricate these issues with H transmissions.
Unfortunately, it's not a fabrication. Good for you if it hasn't happened to your car though. The link from Darkestfenix is the one I would have posted but it is not the only one out there. I bought my Prelude used with about 40,000 on the ticker back in '06 and even then it already had a slight reverse grind that I could never do anything about. Fluid changes, varying my clutch techniques, etc had no impact at all. I let it go and figured I'd deal with it as I drove and it took 56,000 miles more before it finally went out on me. The day reverse finally just disappeared, my car was in a Honda dealers parking lot while I was inside at the parts counter purchasing new crush rings and Honda manual transmission fluid to do another oil change on it. The irony was not lost on me at the time. Meanwhile, all forward gears were still 100% functional and smooth as silk on shifting with no popping out, clunks, or grinds.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

Originally Posted by darkestfenix
thanks that really help. ill try that.

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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by godslayer
Maybe VTAK kicked in during your losing race against an M3.

Rebuild the transmission, buy a new remanufactured unit, or live without reverse because that's the only way you'll get it in.

Search is your friend...it's a known fact that at around 95,000 miles your Preludes 5-speed transmission will fail you like that. Mine just did that about 4 weeks ago so I spent the extra money on adding a helical LSD. Get ready to fork out some $$$ if you can't do the rebuild yourself.
i didn't lose against a m3. it was a equal match. we were side by side all the way. the h22 is in my eg hatch
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

Originally Posted by k20dude
also do anyone know anythings about what wrong with the reverse not going in, when i putting it in reverse and letting go of clutch, it only grind, i try going it into first and then reverse really fast but still nothing, i try pushing car back and forth then in reverse, but still nothing, it only grind, does anyone have any idea what is wrong and what i need to replace

all gear shift perfect no grind at all. only reverse grind, but i did happen to miss shift on third gear on freeway while doing a high end race with a M3.
does anyone have any idea what is wrong and what i need to replace
5th and Reverse are notorious for going out on these H22 Trans. I say your Reverse is gone. Get a new one; look around Ebay, etc.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by nus_dogg
5th and Reverse are notorious for going out on these H22 Trans. I say your Reverse is gone. Get a new one; look around Ebay, etc.
I hate to advertise something I haven't used for very long but I'm going to anyway because it was a better deal than anything I could find locally....

I went with a full remanufactured unit from an H-T site sponsor Synchrotech. The unit was ~$1,200 + $300 refundable core (which I am still waiting for). For another $650 put in a helical LSD and didn't charge any extra for cracking the tranny open and installing it with proper preload & all that fun stuff. They're in California so it took me about a week to get it without having to pay incredibly high shipping costs. Standard ground is $150 (but that does cover return shipping of the core) so the wait for me was fine.

Even if you do search Ebay you'll likely find him selling on there too....same price, same service. Look up Synchrotech here on H-T and you'll see nothing but glowing reviews. I'll leave the same feedback once I put some more miles on everything.

http://shop.synchrotech-transmission...5.qscstrfrnt03

edit: I know the link says $500 deposit but when I called they told me $300 and that's all I was invoiced for.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

Originally Posted by k20dude
i didn't lose against a m3. it was a equal match. we were side by side all the way. the h22 is in my eg hatch
Fair enough then. You're probably a good 800 pounds lighter than the Prelude I'm in.....
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

well the 5 synchro sleeve was all grind up and rounded but, i try replace the 5th synchro sleeve but still nothing, reverse still got engaging and still the same, i just bought a use tranny for $200 and now it's in my car and running and everything work, but the tranny that im working on rite now had LSD it's a M2B4 and the one i just bought is a M2F4 NON-LSD, i want to keep the LSD,

do anyone thinks it's a good idea to swap out the reverse or swap out everuthing? LMK thanks

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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

your better off putting your gears that you have in your m2b4 but you have to be careful that the case closes right or else there goes another tranny....I have m2y4 gear set in a m2b4 cases..
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Default Re: reverse issue on 99 h22 tranny.. HELP PLEASE!!

Originally Posted by godslayer
Fair enough then. You're probably a good 800 pounds lighter than the Prelude I'm in.....
Possibly, but who knows. Since the ugh, civic-owner, only specified "eg hatch", he could have one of 4 different chassis codes. Of those 4 different chassis codes, he could have one of 25+ different grades/trim levels that come with 25+ different engines, etc. So the weight of his undesignated ride could range from 2,050lbs to 2400lbs.

Gotta love those Slow-vic guys.


"Hey, I have a bb coupe"
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