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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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My 1990 accord currently has a full exhaust, short ram intake, iridium plugs, new distributor, bored out throttle body, short shifter, adjustable coil overs, 16's rear upper tie bar and energy suspension sway bar links.
I was thinking of getting a stage one clutch and getting the heads and intake manifold ported out for a few more hp and tq. Is there anything else I could do without breaking the bank to get some extra power besides forced induction or have I meat my peak as far as power?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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My 1990 accord currently has a full exhaust, short ram intake, iridium plugs, new distributor, bored out throttle body, short shifter, adjustable coil overs, 16's rear upper tie bar and energy suspension sway bar links.
I was thinking of getting a stage one clutch and getting the heads and intake manifold ported out for a few more hp and tq. Is there anything else I could do without breaking the bank to get some extra power besides forced induction or have I meat my peak as far as power?
plugs - no additional power (minus regained from old stock)
TB - no additional power without additional mods
short shifter - no power
coilovers - no power
16's - no power (probably weigh more than stock)
sway bar endlinks - no power
SRI - doesn't really add power on F22's
exhaust - doesn't really add power on F22's
clutch - no power
ported w/out other mods - no power

You're far better off either a turbo or getting a performance camshaft to actually gain any power. You're OBDI so getting a camshaft and say like a chipped P28 would be your best money spent to get actual power.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
plugs - no additional power (minus regained from old stock)
TB - no additional power without additional mods
short shifter - no power
coilovers - no power
16's - no power (probably weigh more than stock)
sway bar endlinks - no power
SRI - doesn't really add power on F22's
exhaust - doesn't really add power on F22's
clutch - no power
ported w/out other mods - no power

You're far better off either a turbo or getting a performance camshaft to actually gain any power. You're OBDI so getting a camshaft and say like a chipped P28 would be your best money spent to get actual power.
Agreed! Porting those items out will not do anything if your motor is still breathing relatively stock! We here at Bisimoto have anything and everything you could need for the F22 motor!

Honestly, much like Themuffinman said, go with a camshaft! It will make much more power as it directly effects your motor!

Im shooting you a PM right now!

If there is anything I can help you out with, shoot me an email!
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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I'd do what randull said, if you want to keep the stock sohc f22a, thats your best bet, or you could do a swap
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
plugs - no additional power (minus regained from old stock)
TB - no additional power without additional mods
short shifter - no power
coilovers - no power
16's - no power (probably weigh more than stock)
sway bar endlinks - no power
SRI - doesn't really add power on F22's
exhaust - doesn't really add power on F22's
clutch - no power
ported w/out other mods - no power

You're far better off either a turbo or getting a performance camshaft to actually gain any power. You're OBDI so getting a camshaft and say like a chipped P28 would be your best money spent to get actual power.
My car is running low 15's with the current mods but thanks i will get the cams
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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I had an AEM V2 cia, went to TAS Pro got the $95 Hybrid Polished Intake w/ a K&N. Got me 4 1/4hp, & 5ftlbs tq. Sold the AEM on craigslist. Put $30 in my pocket. I bought a Delta 272 cam for my F22A4 along with a cam gear and valve spring set and got 18hp on the dyno. Just the powerband was alot higher.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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tru that sounds pretty nice. chances are that when i get the heads, and intake manifold ported that im going to get a cam, with a light weight cam gear even if the cam gear is not adjustable.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Just save money and go turbo!
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Honestly I would save my money and get an H22 swapped in there. It is the world's easiest swap. You use all Honda motor mounts. can keep AC and Power steering if you have them. And face it, almost 3 times the power of the F22a going to H22a. Okay, not quite 3 times, but definitely 2 times the power for sure. The time you spending in saving for it would be worth it in that this is a much more build able block as well, so you aren't at the end, you have room to grow if you want (as in these have been built to bring huge power if you want).

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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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If you're looking for a cheap way out, go with the basics. F22a6 runner, h22 plenum and h22 t body, pt6 ecu, 92-93 ex camshaft and 90-91 ex exhaut manifold. That was my first setup, loved it. Then I stepped up and went bisimoto products and gained about 91whp at around 6500 rpm. Now I'm back down to a f20b sir-t motor.
Depends on your budget. The first one suggested is all available from your local junkyard. Second is from randull. Third suggestion is from hmotors. Good luck.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SpartanMW
Just save money and go turbo!
Naw this is a temp car i dont plan on having it long but i want to have a little fun with it. I will only have this car for about another 2 years or so. So im not tring to waist money on a nice turbo for my clunker..
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nickguitarguy
Honestly I would save my money and get an H22 swapped in there. It is the world's easiest swap. You use all Honda motor mounts. can keep AC and Power steering if you have them. And face it, almost 3 times the power of the F22a going to H22a. Okay, not quite 3 times, but definitely 2 times the power for sure. The time you spending in saving for it would be worth it in that this is a much more build able block as well, so you aren't at the end, you have room to grow if you want (as in these have been built to bring huge power if you want).

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True and thanks that would be nice if I actually planed on keeping the car for a some years and i did think about doing a f22b sohc vtech swap instead but i reconsidered.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jhondayang
If you're looking for a cheap way out, go with the basics. F22a6 runner, h22 plenum and h22 t body, pt6 ecu, 92-93 ex camshaft and 90-91 ex exhaut manifold. That was my first setup, loved it. Then I stepped up and went bisimoto products and gained about 91whp at around 6500 rpm. Now I'm back down to a f20b sir-t motor.
Depends on your budget. The first one suggested is all available from your local junkyard. Second is from randull. Third suggestion is from hmotors. Good luck.
Thanks i already have the full exahaust but F22a6 runner, h22 tbody & 92 ecu
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Get the Evolution Intake manifold adapter and a H22 Intake manifold. Or find a H23 manifold, that will help out a bit also. I have a Euro R manifold on my GF's F22 and it works well.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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thanks
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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if i were you i would get a f22b1 vtec head and a new ecu chipped so basicly do a mini-me swap just with a f22 lol
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jdm4lifecb7
if i were you i would get a f22b1 vtec head and a new ecu chipped so basicly do a mini-me swap just with a f22 lol
Why replace the f22a head with an inferior f22b head? Just because its vtec doesn't mean its better.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm4lifecb7
if i were you i would get a f22b1 vtec head and a new ecu chipped so basicly do a mini-me swap just with a f22 lol
yeah that does sound nice.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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The f22b1 heads that come in the 94-97's have a more aggressive head design which allows more flow so it would not be a bad idea plus the f22b1 swaps make about 10 more horse's than the f22a does.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Rod
The f22b1 heads that come in the 94-97's have a more aggressive head design which allows more flow so it would not be a bad idea plus the f22b1 swaps make about 10 more horse's than the f22a does.
The F22a head flows way better than the F22b head. Also, the F22b1 came with 145hp; the F22A6 came with 140hp and its non-vtec. Throw a p12 ecu in it and you're at 150hp (theoretically). The vtec in the F22b1 was intended more for fuel economy than performance.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lil Tones
The F22a head flows way better than the F22b head. Also, the F22b1 came with 145hp; the F22A6 came with 140hp and its non-vtec. Throw a p12 ecu in it and you're at 150hp (theoretically). The vtec in the F22b1 was intended more for fuel economy than performance.
alrighty thanks for the advice and the info.
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