Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
Im looking into new suspension and some new lca's. I was wondering if there is a benefit to the Type-R Eyelet Style LCA's and Coil overs. ?
Any info would help
Any info would help
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Re: Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
i would have no clue why there would be a benefit. It really doesnt do anything differenent, to my knowledge.
As for coilovers, yes there benefits, but it really depends on what your planing to do with the car.
As for coilovers, yes there benefits, but it really depends on what your planing to do with the car.
Re: Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
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You are able to adjust your ride height, corner balance, and others.
Im drunk, otherwise i wouldd try to be more help, but everything you need or want to know about coilovers is very easy to find out by searing.
Im drunk, otherwise i wouldd try to be more help, but everything you need or want to know about coilovers is very easy to find out by searing.
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Re: Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
i have been told the eyelet style is better for cornering. also, lower unsprung weight.
in an effort to cut costs (due to an extremely high tax rate of imported vehicles at the time), honda ditched them for north american apps in 88
in an effort to cut costs (due to an extremely high tax rate of imported vehicles at the time), honda ditched them for north american apps in 88
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Re: Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
You could have searched for more info yourself.
The eye was dropped in most markets except JDM and surrounding markets or something.
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Short answer: Yes, the '88 CRX used the same kind of LCA as the Type R.
Longer answer: It was only changed in the US (and maybe Canada); the rest of the world kept it throughout the 2G CRX's model run, and its design and basic details stayed on for the Integra Type R. The reason it was hastily redesigned for the US market is because, in general, American drivers are stupid. The LCA's design allowed for some flex in the LCA, which caused it to toe out under load (the outside rear wheel in a turn would turn just a bit due to the flex in the LCA, which resulted in a kind of "passive rear steering"). As a result, the '88 CRX is more likely to rotate if you lift off the throttle while in a turn (commonly known as "lift-throttle oversteer"). It made the cars more nimble, but in the hands of untrained American drivers, it made them "dangerous".
Of course I, being a stupid American driver, was caught by surprise the first time I discovered this feature in my '88 CRX Si. I was humming along a frontage road, in the right-most lane, when a doofus in a LandCrusher pulled out in front of me. It caught me off guard because I was *really* close to him when he did it, I had my headlights on (daytime), and I'd JUST MADE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM!
Anyway, he pulls out, I reflexively get off the gas while I make an emergency lane change, and the car starts fishtailing. It went back and forth a few times before I reminded myself to just get back into the throttle to calm everything down. Then I drove straight home and changed my underwear!
So, if you have the '88-style (boxed) rear LCAs, you should probably be looking at ITR or '88 CRX rear struts.
Hope this helped clear a few things up for you,
Mike
Longer answer: It was only changed in the US (and maybe Canada); the rest of the world kept it throughout the 2G CRX's model run, and its design and basic details stayed on for the Integra Type R. The reason it was hastily redesigned for the US market is because, in general, American drivers are stupid. The LCA's design allowed for some flex in the LCA, which caused it to toe out under load (the outside rear wheel in a turn would turn just a bit due to the flex in the LCA, which resulted in a kind of "passive rear steering"). As a result, the '88 CRX is more likely to rotate if you lift off the throttle while in a turn (commonly known as "lift-throttle oversteer"). It made the cars more nimble, but in the hands of untrained American drivers, it made them "dangerous".
Of course I, being a stupid American driver, was caught by surprise the first time I discovered this feature in my '88 CRX Si. I was humming along a frontage road, in the right-most lane, when a doofus in a LandCrusher pulled out in front of me. It caught me off guard because I was *really* close to him when he did it, I had my headlights on (daytime), and I'd JUST MADE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM!
Anyway, he pulls out, I reflexively get off the gas while I make an emergency lane change, and the car starts fishtailing. It went back and forth a few times before I reminded myself to just get back into the throttle to calm everything down. Then I drove straight home and changed my underwear!
So, if you have the '88-style (boxed) rear LCAs, you should probably be looking at ITR or '88 CRX rear struts.
Hope this helped clear a few things up for you,
Mike
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Re: Type-R Eyelet Style vs Fork Style
The reactions mentioned apply foremost to the CRX.
I'm not aware of similar issues with the ITR, which does have a somewhat different suspension layout. Also the eye was kept on the ITR throughout markets.
Note also the JDM EG6 features the eye while most other markets don't, I don't know the hatch has the same issues.
I'm not aware of similar issues with the ITR, which does have a somewhat different suspension layout. Also the eye was kept on the ITR throughout markets.
Note also the JDM EG6 features the eye while most other markets don't, I don't know the hatch has the same issues.
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A tuned suspension on an ITR also exhibits the lift throttle oversteer. Been that way since 1997. If you push it in a turn and lift off the gas, it wants to rotate. Ask an ITR owner that has tracked their car at road atlanta and then mention turn 12. 
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