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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Default monroe sensa-trac shocks mated with ground controls

ok so i have a 94 civic cx and i recently got ground controls for her. she has been riding on cut springs for quite some time (thanks previous owner) which why i decided to go ground controls. anyways, when i removed the shocks, they were completely blown... im planning to be lowered still, not slammed, but significantly lowered, and i was wondering if these shocks would do a great job, daily grind and canyon duties, mated with the ground controls. i love the idea of lifetime warranty and the fact that monroe will pay for the 4th shock.

what about other brands? im trying to stay within budget...

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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NO, those shocks defeat the purpose of running a aftermarket coilover sleeve/ spring setup. Those are essentially a OEm replacement part. Look into AT LEAST koni reds or yellows. It will make a bit stiffer ride, but the handling and longevity of the shocks will be much greater

May I ask what your budget is?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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Monroe Sensa-Trac dampers do not build nearly enough force to control even the default spring rates for GC coilovers. You'd essentially be throwing money away. You want an upgrade, not to side-step or downgrade.

I'd suggest at least picking up a set of Tokico Illuminas or KYB AGX. The basic level dampers from most companies (including Tokico HPs and KYB GR-2s) just don't build enough force to control stiff coilover springs and aren't constructed to withstand that sort of use.

You might as well save up to do it right the first time, or else you'll find youself spending twice as much just to do it all over again.

I can't stress enough that suspension just cannot be modified properly on an unrealistically low budget. Doing it cheap is worse than doing nothing at all - bad dampers and a poor setup will make the car handle far worse than the stock suspension. When working with adjustable-height coilovers, you have to be willing to spend at least $600 to get anything usable, and at least $1200 for the real worthwhile stuff. If your budget is lower than that, I recommend sticking with a set of quality lowering springs and dampers that can handle them, because that's your best option for the money.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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ok sounds good, my budget is up to 1000, but i was trying to stay cheap and reliable bc i'll probably see little to no track time and i dont push my car to or even close to its limit in the canyons. built b20v, 230whp 190wtq. so i hate to ask again, but knowing this, is it still a waste of money for monroes, or should i just go aftermarket.

yes i know i could get full coilovers with my budget, but why if they are not going to be damper adjustables and the lowest quality ones? i'd rather do a shock and coilover sleeve for about the same results for a bit cheaper. i used to have the tein basics, they sucked!
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Your shocks and springs need to be matched. The stiffer spring rate of the Ground Controls needs something valved different to work properly.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Im running omnipower full body coilover "street" version and love them. The bang for the buck is relentless. You will then still have a few bucks left over for strut bars/swaybars
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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For $1k you can get Koni yellows and Ground Controls, easy. I bought my Ground Controls and Koni Yellows for about $800 together. Well worth it I think, they handle awesome. Or you can buy Eibach ERS springs, a set of cheap perches and Koni Reds or some other slightly cheaper shock and save money. The Eibach ERS springs are the same as the Ground controls, just you need to find the right spring rate and size. Little more work, but can be a lot cheaper.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NotAJDMFanBoy
Your shocks and springs need to be matched. The stiffer spring rate of the Ground Controls needs something valved different to work properly.
best info so far.. makes perfect since, stiffer springs blah blah. i'll start looking into better shocks. TY
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