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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Default What is Needed To Reach 165+Hp

Im looking to start building on my b18b1
to get it race ready for import showdown
I already have headers, exhaust, intake
what is next? my goal is to get over 160+
I have a 94 ls 5 speed
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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It's hard to get there with the ls sadly. Don't quote me on that though I'm not an expert but it's just been said to be a waste of time due to the restrictive flow characteristics of the non-vtec head. There is a big port (but rare) B20 head that would be better to use than the b18 head if you want to stay non vtec.

Other than that, more aggressive cams like these: http://www.briancrower.com/view.php?pn=BC0022
along with head work and tuning will go a long way.

Also improving the parts you have currently (if you can) may help as well, what kind of header, exhaust, and intake do you have?

I'd recommend going the ls vtec route overall.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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turbo or spray it
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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BOOST
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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I dont wanna boost or spray because i wanna run with all my homies in the all motor class
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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If you looking for cheap stuff a hondata intake gasket spacer will give you some numbers

Arp rod bolts so u can rev it a bit more with a good tune

Seen b20 cams used before they work pretty well on a stock ls

What kind of header do you have?

What kind of tranny you got?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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dc sports, and stock ls tranny but its garbage, in the process of lookin for either a gsr tranny or b16
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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no point reving it higher .... ls dont make power that high

stock rod bolts can handle 8k fine. i did it for a year with a turbo. this is with me riding hte rev limiter on 1st and 2nd to get traction.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LilTeggy2011
dc sports, and stock ls tranny but its garbage, in the process of lookin for either a gsr tranny or b16
Pick up a better header like a tri y, rmf narrow, bisi, etc.

B16 trannys are nice on a stock ls

Lsd quaife is good to get too

Originally Posted by komat
no point reving it higher .... ls dont make power that high
Whether he sticks with the LS head and has it ported and built, or switches to lsv. Your gonna want to see higher rpms and arps are the first step with a LS block
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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165WHP? Bolt-ons won't really get you there.. gotta start messing with the internals.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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tuned header
https://honda-tech.com/forums/performance-45/%2A%2A%2A%2Akiddracing-narrow-b-series-header-blowout-sale%2A%2A%2A%2A-2434887/

long runner intake manifold - edlebrock performer x are a personal favorite

310cc injectors and a dyno tune, and you will be there easily.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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http://compare.ebay.com/like/1704739...=263602_304662
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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That kit is a piece of crap,

And he already said he don't wanna go turbo
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Default Re: What is Needed To Reach 165+Hp

Originally Posted by LilTeggy2011
Im looking to start building on my b18b1
to get it race ready for import showdown
I already have headers, exhaust, intake
what is next? my goal is to get over 160+
I have a 94 ls 5 speed
You'll barely notice the gain and may regret spending your hard earned money. It's a lot of work but maybe you should look into an LS/VTEC conversion, but then you won't pass smog. My friend would only build up LS motors if the block was sleeved. Ebay turbo kits are hit or miss.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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I say go boost. I have me a mildly built LS, and its getting me nowhere fast. (Get it?)
Either boost, or Vtec. check my profile and my pictures. FInd the dyno graph.
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Originally Posted by LilTeggy2011
I dont wanna boost or spray because i wanna run with all my homies in the all motor class
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LilTeggy2011
I dont wanna boost or spray because i wanna run with all my homies in the all motor class
Engine swap?

http://www.hamotorsports.com/egj1mounts.html
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dntnedvtec
or Vtec.
Lol the irony
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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LOL, I know....
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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BUILD THE HEAD!
youll get 150 to 160whp

160+ whp will need some more extensive work but possible with some sick *** tuner and swap pistons to raise compression.

If you want to go higher than that and stay N/A. Youll need a built Vtec engine or lots of money.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Default Re: What is Needed To Reach 165+Hp

Originally Posted by LilTeggy2011
Im looking to start building on my b18b1
to get it race ready for import showdown
I already have headers, exhaust, intake
what is next? my goal is to get over 160+
I have a 94 ls 5 speed
If you live in CA anything else you do to your car to boost its power will just **** up your emmisions. Or go with a smog legal greddy turbo, but it wont be N/a
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dntnedvtec
LOL, I know....
Just get a vtec head with toda killer cams, you can keep the name, still no vtak!

OP you want a diffrent tranny over all, that thing is gonna be a slug with the LS trans.
I've had a LS trans since I went b series and it BLOWS. Only reason I kept mine is its got 60k with papers on it with only a 85yr old lady that used it before me
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EHondaJDM
Just get a vtec head with toda killer cams, you can keep the name, still no vtak!

OP you want a diffrent tranny over all, that thing is gonna be a slug with the LS trans.
I've had a LS trans since I went b series and it BLOWS. Only reason I kept mine is its got 60k with papers on it with only a 85yr old lady that used it before me

Second that on the tranny, lose the LS tranny, you can thank us later..
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