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d16 SOHC Vtec ek coupe - need help choosing exhaust, intake, headers, throttle body

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Default d16 SOHC Vtec ek coupe - need help choosing exhaust, intake, headers, throttle body

I was having trouble picking an exhuast, intake, headers, and throttle body for my d16 SOHC Vtec ek coupe. Heres what im trying to decide on. open to suggestions aswell.... anything else you would recommend to give it a lil more motor push

Exhuast:
Apexi WS2
Greddy Spectrum Elite
Hks High Power

Intake:
Weapon-R Secret Weapon
Apexi Power intake

Headers and throttle body need some suggestions if its worth it... and which ones...
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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also was thinking about tanabe medalion touring exhuast aswell
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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all you choices for exhaust are all good choices im personaly a fan of the apexi but also like the tenabe. as far as intake i like the plain old school aem cold air its proven it self time and time again. header is a must but depending on your long term goals, but i use ceramic coated ebay headers cause the cost 50 shipped and they are the same as a dc header but i use them because there cheap and i mod them to soot my needs and i would cry if i cut up a brand new 350 dc header. as far as throttle body dont touch it stock is perfect size for most n/a builds bigger just losses velocity it will be snappier but make less power
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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you know i hurd that cold air intakes tend to suck up water and dirt easy. given i live in south florida. i was worried about that? ever hurd of that happening?
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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yep i live in pennsylvania andin spring time it rains for weeks straight and i take my cold air off during those times of the season and put my short ram on, but for added security you can get the aem bypass valve and it will open if the intake gets into water
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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get a buddy club spec II if you want to be real loud
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Hey man its been a while since I had my y8 coupe but I ran an aem short ram intake (99% of intake pipes are the same, run a good filter & protect from water), I had an ebay apexi n1 muffler with exhaust shop bent 2.5" catback, with chakira tork step header also had a vafc that I tuned on the 1/4 mile: made great fun reliable power just don't think too crazy with the lil d and it'll last a long time (id trade anything for the simpler times with the d series! Hahaha) good luck making your car your own man
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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For all the money you're spending you know you could probably but a b18 in there and you'd be a lot happier.

That or you could turbo your car and be even happier.

It's not worth your time to do intake/exhaust bolt ons for a SOHC civic. Money is better spent elsewhere.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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op dont listen to the d haters, my brother-in-law had an ls swap in his 94 dx hatch and i have a z6 swap in my 94 dx hatch and i use to beat him so bad and he got so pissed that he took the ls out and put a z6 in it. i only mess with d's and if you know them well enough you can make good power cheap, more power then a stock ls for less money then you would have in the swap
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Messing with an n/a D is ALOT of money. Don't get me wrong, I love the D series I will never swap mine. They are cheap to replace, easy for parts, and take what you give them all while getting good MPGs. If you are looking to make power on a D, go with boost turbo cars are loads of fun and it will be cheaper to make it fast.

Do your research and then decide what to do. Do not touch your car without research.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hatchaddict01
op dont listen to the d haters
they're not hating. just being realistic. can't make power on an n/a d-series without spending a dick ton of money.

Originally Posted by hatchaddict01
my brother-in-law had an ls swap in his 94 dx hatch and i have a z6 swap in my 94 dx hatch and i use to beat him so bad and he got so pissed that he took the ls out and put a z6 in it.
i doubt this highly, or there is something you're not telling us.

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if you know them well enough you can make good power cheap, more power then a stock ls for less money then you would have in the swap
just flat out not true. it takes lot of money to make any power from an n/a d-series. it's extremely unlikely you can build a faster n/a D for less than the price of swapping to an ls that's way more torquey. i happen to have an ls hatch, and z6 coupe, and the difference between the two is night and day.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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they're not hating. just being realistic. can't make power on an n/a d-series without spending a dick ton of money.
this all depends on you power goals i built a d15b2 that should put 140-145 to the ground for about 450 you just have to know theses engines and know what works and how to shop for the correct parts


i doubt this highly, or there is something you're not telling us.
it was nothing special z6 with bolt ons and a 59300 cam with a s20 b200 trans


just flat out not true. it takes lot of money to make any power from an n/a d-series. it's extremely unlikely you can build a faster n/a D for less than the price of swapping to an ls that's way more torquey. i happen to have an ls hatch, and z6 coupe, and the difference between the two is night and day.
i will not disagree to the fact that the ls makes loads of torque but if very flat on top, but it makes 140hp and a stock z6 makes 125hp so realy howmuch do you think it cost to get a 20hp bump out of a z6 not including bolt ons cause every one does i/h/e, my 59300 cost me 150 with comp springs used for 5km chipped ecu 30 bucks, tune free on crome, stuff to support proper tuning wideband and chip burner 250. so about 430. how much des a complete and proper ls swap cost?
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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[B]but it makes 140hp and a stock z6 makes 125hp so realy how much do you think it would cost to get a 20hp bump
a lot more than you realize.
and you still can't get around the torque difference.


i can hardly decypher **** else you said
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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what dont you understand about what i said?
and as far as the torque differance stock to stock the ls makes more torque then a type r. so are you saying that the ls is a better swap then a type r? i mean damn torque must be everything right? ls makes 140hp stock and the type r makes 195hp stock.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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OP save all that money and either swap, or do turbo D. best bang for the buck.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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I've owned a pretty wide spectrum of hondas d's and b's both and from first hand experience bolt on's will do next to nothing for a d-series turbo is pretty much the only way to make good power

Now if u want it to be a little more responsive u can swap on a LS throttle body 60mm vs the stock 52mm and the best part is it's a direct bolt on
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Torque wins over horsepower. Incase you didn't know.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamvanxxx
Torque wins over horsepower. Incase you didn't know.
really so an ls swap is gonna spank a type r, ok right.
torque gets you out of the hole and horsepower is what keeps you going up top that why most vtec engine dont make great torque but make great horsepower and the suck out of the hole and have tons of top end.
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the ls tb will make it snappier but will actually make less power cause it losses velocity and causes more reversion then the d already has stock
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hatchaddict01
really so an ls swap is gonna spank a type r, ok right.
torque gets you out of the hole and horsepower is what keeps you going up top that why most vtec engine dont make great torque but make great horsepower and the suck out of the hole and have tons of top end.
Thanks. I needed that laugh. The best part is: It's at your expense.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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If i were to go turbo with it. Wouldnt i atleast want to change the headers, Intake, and the exhuast system?
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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i don't even know where to start

totally not worth the effort to explain. op and the others who are misinformed are gonna have to figure this out on their own. hint: google
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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or does that really not matter? and how much horsepower increase will the turbo give me? cuz just by looking around looks like getting a turbo will cost around 2500
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
Thanks. I needed that laugh. The best part is: It's at your expense.
whats to laugh at? if im wrong them explain it genious and dont use wikipedia use you big *** brain
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Keeping future goals in mind...a new exhaust would prove useful even if you did stay n/a or turbo...
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