Hey all, I am going to be setting up my car with a 100 shot direct port pretty shortly and was curious about a few things

1) Does anyone know which size tap should be used to tap the manifold for the nitrous/fuel splitters?

2) Currently I am using the stock FPR and plan on switching it out and moving it to somewhere unseen for a cleaner look, I know this car uses a return style system "Unlike my last car" and was curious which FPR would typically be used??
I know on my last car we typically used an Aeromitive FPR since we had to add a return line

3) Is there any certain spacing I should stick to when tapping the manifold as far as how far AWAY from the flange I should keep the taps??
I.E 1" 2" etc etc

4) I know it will need to get a second tune for when I spray and would like to have something that will give me a few tunes that I can switch to easily, I have before used a dtech in my last car but dont know if that is something worth while in this car?
What should I use to switch between tunes? Hondata? Chrome?

That is all I can think of for now but if I have any other questions I will ask them...Also if this should have gone in the Forced induction section"although that doesnt seem like the right place" I apologize and will ask a mod to move it

 

Nitrous is considered allmotor in your mind ?

 

Well it technically isnt "forced induction" either since it isnt forcing air into the motor...Besides the point either way, If you dont have anything helpful than post somewhere else

 

We've actually debated the meaning of forced induction and nitrous in this forum quite a bit and more or less ended up in a stalemate. Technicalities aside, you're question is more likely to be answered in the forced induction form than this one.

 

See that was my thought process is that "technically" it isnt forced induction BUT it isnt what I would call N/A either so I wasnt sure where to put this, Hence me saying if it was wrong or should be somewhere else I would ask a mod to move it or do it myself

 

That is a very entertaining thread I might add. LOL!
Nitrous on a Naturally Aspirated engine = Forced Induction?
So how many psi of boost does that nitrous give ya - with a throttle body WIDE OPEN TO THE ATMOSPHERE????????????????

If you wanted to take technicalities to the farthest rational end, any engine that operated on plated Earth is boosted to 14.7 psi if we used the vacuum of space as reference. I mean, engines do operate out there.... (not internal combustion of course)

OP:
1. The majority of Nitrous nozzles are 1/16" NPT, but some are 1/8" - you'll need to verify what you buy.

2. Any return-style pressure relief valve (regulator) will work; Aeromotive, Weldon, etc...

3. Mid-runner seems to be ideal placement for nozzles, not too close, not too far.

4. I'd recommend a true stand alone, AEM is the most popular PnP. Many people have success with Hondata and Crome, I personally don't like either but that's my opinion. Probably because I learned on AEM.

 

nitrous is a power adder.. clearly forced induction.. why do you guys complicate simple things..

 

LOL, no comment...

 

with nitrous you are forcing more oxygen into the motor plain and simple.

 

How is nitrous forcing anything anywhere? Please explain that. If the engine wasn't drawing in air on it's own, the nitrous would be just as happy flowing out the throttle body vs. past an intake valve. It's just a gas, introduced into an open chamber. Nothing is sealed, it's wide open to the atmosphere. So how can it be forced induction?

How can you people not see that?

 

Nitrous is forced into the manifold by 1000psi of bottle pressure. Not only that, but a direct port would force the nitrous into the chambers regardless of throttle position.

This argument seems to persist because everyone has their own definition and criteria for "Forced Induction".

 

LOL. Alright. I have a shoe box here with four holes cut in the bottom and a big hole cut in the lid. I have a 300+ psi can of bug spray here and if your theory is correct, I'm going to spray it into the box full of holes and pressurize it. I hope I don't have a 1000+ psi can of bug spray, i might blow this box apart. LOL Also, all the air in this box is going to "know" it needs to displace out the bottom four holes, cuz that's where I want it to go.

If only your physics were correct.

I'm done. Throw a 50 shot on your car and call it boosted. I'll sleep just as well.

 

Wow, that attitude is a bit unprofessional. I expect that from some of the ricers on here, but from a Kinsler representative? Tisk tisk

The act of being forced has nothing to do with pressure Scott. I don't remember any of Sir Isaac Newton's laws regarding Force involving the creation of a pressurized atmosphere. Hence why I said nothing about pressure so you are seriously confused as to my "theory".

 

Eh sorry if that was harsh. I'm sleep deprived and in an odd mood this morning.

But I think what you said touches on the real issue, which is more over terminology than physics.

 

LOL, I hear ya. I have those days too.

 

Ok thank you for the answers, AND being the only one to not sit here and debate this **** again, I only wanted answers NOT get sucked into this ****...

 

I apologize.
I've had food and 2 Amps since then, I'm feeling much better now.

A good customer of ours works for Nitrous Express, great place to call or e-mail nitrous specific questions to.

 

Thanks for the help Scott, I've been in too many battles lately to even try entering into this one again...lol

 

Oh c'mon! Don't act like that thread wasn't fun. LOL