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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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10-5 Update: CEL CODES ON PG.2!
Alright fellas, so i recently did an oil change using 10w30 synthetic since my car was almost a quart over. i also replaced the spark plugs while i was at it. however, the car had NGK Iridiums and i went with a cheaper $3 NGK plug shown below...
my question is... does this affect VTEC? or maybe havin too much oil caused my Vtec Solenoid screen to get dirty??? VTEC was popping smoothly before i realized car had a little too much oil.
Plz drop in ur input... thanks.


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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:01 AM
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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I hate it when vtec doesn't pop.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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did you check your VTEC solenoid to see if the screen was plugged? why wouldn't you use the same type of plugs you had?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fv8s
did you check your VTEC solenoid to see if the screen was plugged? why wouldn't you use the same type of plugs you had?
THE GREEN PLUG THAT GOES TO THE SOLENOID?

AND I THREW THESE PLUGS ON SINCE I BOUGHT THEM BEFORE CHECKING WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE. BUT DOES THE TYPE OF NGK SPARK PLUG MAKE A DIFFERENCE??
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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Man you gotta add more VTECH fluid to get it to pop, easiest thing ever!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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i love it when people say vtec cracks or pops. VTEC does not equal RICE KRISPIES


any cel? like fv8s said check the solenoid screen, if its clear then check to see if your getting power to the solenoid

i doubt your plugs caused a big change, switch back and see if theres a difference although if vtec isnt working power should die off pretty quickly after 5500
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by boogienights
i love it when people say vtec cracks or pops. VTEC does not equal RICE KRISPIES


any cel? like fv8s said check the solenoid screen, if its clear then check to see if your getting power to the solenoid

i doubt your plugs caused a big change, switch back and see if theres a difference although if vtec isnt working power should die off pretty quickly after 5500
i have a CEL so i needa pull the codes.. besides that, im gunna switch back to the IRIDIUMS just in case and ill also be checking the solenoid screen tommorow
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Plugs don't make a difference in VTEC engagement. What type of car/engine is this?

**VTEC need the all following things to work:
VSS reading >12mph, CTS reading operating temp, oil pressure, correct wiring and hardware, rpm signal at or above trigger point, TPS reading at or above trigger point, MAP signal that makes sense.

**with a virgin Honda ecu and without any vtec controllers or bypasses
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 07:05 AM
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Plugs don't make a difference in VTEC engagement. What type of car/engine is this?

**VTEC need the all following things to work:
VSS reading >12mph, CTS reading operating temp, oil pressure, correct wiring and hardware, rpm signal at or above trigger point, TPS reading at or above trigger point, MAP signal that makes sense.

**with a virgin Honda ecu and without any vtec controllers or bypasses
its a 2000 EK Hatch w/ a B16A (basic bolt-ons: I/H/E/Chipped P72).. im also stressing this black smoke on my bumper but thats because im running too rich.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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get it tuned if what the above people said isnt working
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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i like your hatch, and yes your car is running hella rich by the look of it
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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thanks everyone..

also, the car came with some red ebay spark plug wires so im definately buying some blue NGK's or OEM ones.. can this be it too?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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could you have disconnected the green plug on the solenoid by accident when you did the plugs?

spark plugs do not make any sort of difference in VTEC engagement.

what is your current oil level?

also, VTEC is not a noisemaker, so who cares if it engages quietly or loudly...
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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I think i'm just going to state the obvious: You said that Vtec was engaging right? You did a few things and now its running rich, throwing a light, and not crossing over? Something just doesn't add up. So here comes the obveious, why dont you back track with every action you took. Chances are you accidently unplugged a sensor or pulled to hard on some wiring with a tool or and arm inadvertently. Personally, I wouldnt have even started this thread until I knew why it was throwing a code....
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Not that it's your problem, but the 5553/BKR6ES-11 plugs are the NGK Standard Copper plugs. Stock for a '99-'00 Si B16A2 would be the 3141/PFR6L-13 NGK Laser Series (platinum/iridium core).

Check that code before you start theorizing what the problem might be though.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NOFX
Not that it's your problem, but the 5553/BKR6ES-11 plugs are the NGK Standard Copper plugs. Stock for a '99-'00 Si B16A2 would be the 3141/PFR6L-13 NGK Laser Series (platinum/iridium core).

Check that code before you start theorizing what the problem might be though.
thanks for your help.

$12 a plug FML! o well, gotta pay to play
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/hybrid-engine-swaps-18/%5Bfaq%5D-%22my-vtec-doesnt-work%22-1812135/
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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^ beat me to it
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Did you ever find out what the CEL was on for? The copper plugs will work pretty much just the same...they just won't last as long. You can find the OEM platinum plugs on www.sparkplugs.com for relatively cheap.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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~$12/plug??? where? i just purchased 4 iridium plugs for my b16 for less than $25 total.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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okay so i havent had a chance to scan the CEL codes but i did notice something strange over the weekend.

when the car was hitting vtec my mph wasnt working but rpm's were.
after the oil change n new spark plugs i drove the car just fine but when i pulled into a shopping center i bottomed out a bit and my ECU fuse under the hood popped.. so i pulled out the horn fuse and put it in the fi/e slot and car started up n the mph started working again. however, after mph were reading again.. i get a call from my friend saying my brake lights dont work..

so wuts goin on here? ive had the car for 2 months n i feel like stripping it completely and rewiring everything
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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Your horn fuse says "stop/horn" on it. The "stop" part is for the brake lights. It fuses both.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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ahahaha
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Holy crap!
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