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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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so i bought some blox lca's and i'm looking to replace the bushings.

does anyone have a site they purchase there es bushings from?

also should i replace any other bushings while i am at it ? :D thank yuou
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Someone on here did it, search around you'll probably find the thread. Most sites will carry their bushings, if no luck then go to the ES site and they should have a list of authorized retailers.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 04:42 AM
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poly works in some applications and not others. In many rear multi-link rear set ups, the inner lower bushing takes a beating. Make sure that the poly is the correct hardness and make sure it seats well.

If you can afford rod end inserts and do not drive a lot on public roads these are best...or find hard rubber...best all-round in my opinion.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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I think that there is a recent thread, but if not, there are universal application bushings and you can use a micrometer to get ID and OD needed and go to the ES bushing chart at energysuspension.com. They were upgrading, or I would have given the site.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...cement+bushing

Mentions ES bushing with slight trim to fit. Also here

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/where-buy-es-rear-lca-bushings-blox-lcas-2830712/

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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Default Re: energy suspension bushings

Originally Posted by meb58
. Make sure that the poly is the correct hardness and make sure it seats well.

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i'm still surprised only function 7 uses this advice. i have seen countless china cheapie arms have bushing that fall apart in a year or so. the engergy bushings, i have a set in oem arms that are 2 years old and look nearly new.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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The F7 bushing are ES that are custom made for them to their own spec. Its got some kind of dyna pro or some **** going on, not sure but it says it on my LCA's.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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which bushings should i go with? oem or ES? or if you have any other ones you guys suggest
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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i suggest you just throw away the blox crap and get new control arms with fresh OEM bushings. install the arm correctly and they will last.

F7 also designs their bushings completely different than regular ES bushings.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Blox is garbage, id recommend getting es insert for your stock arms or get F7's. You definitely wont regret the latter.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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sighhhh so i either dump them and get OEM LCA's or get ES bushings..
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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There is advice to throw, and advice to replace the bushings. Two threads above on replacement. I guess you have a choice now. Since you already have them, you can replace bushings fairly cheaply, and throw them later if you do not like the result.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Ok, So are "ES" the only bushings recommended for my replacement? how much do shops charge to press them in?
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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It shouldnt be much to press them in if you already have the old ones taken out. A few minutes of work at the most.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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F7 also designs their bushings completely different than regular ES bushings.

who told you this? one of their reps more or less admitted that they are just garden variety ES bushings. not that that's a bad thing, they FAR outlast the china garbage.

you can save money and press es bushings in your stock arms. honestly you can get the new bushings in with a vice, it's pressing the old ones out that's a bitch. you either use a 20+ ton press or you drill them silly and use a socket in a 5" or larger vice and twist.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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i see, so will i have any problems buying es bushings and having a shop press them in?

also how are KYB Bushings? i've been looking into them but just worried if they will work with blox lca's can anyone confirm this please?

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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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who told you this? one of their reps more or less admitted that they are just garden variety ES bushings. not that that's a bad thing, they FAR outlast the china garbage.
I'm not sure who this "rep" is, but it makes me wonder who you spoke to (a retailer, perhaps?). Our bushings are custom made to our specifications (i.e. choice of compound, etc) by Energy Suspension.

BTW, most of our competitors' arms use set screws to mount oem-style (metal shelled) bushings. No presses needed to remove/install the bushings. Loosen the set screw and the bushings will slide out.

PS. If you can't find an ES distributor, I can talk our ops manager to order whatever you need directly from ES. All I need is a part number.

PPS. I have a bag of new/unused genuine Honda OEM rear LCA bushings left over from our R&D. Interested? PM me.


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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Function7
I'm not sure who this "rep" is, but it makes me wonder who you spoke to (a retailer, perhaps?). Our bushings are custom made to our specifications (i.e. choice of compound, etc) by Energy Suspension.

BTW, most of our competitors' arms use set screws to mount oem-style (metal shelled) bushings. No presses needed to remove/install the bushings. Loosen the set screw and the bushings will slide out.

PS. If you can't find an ES distributor, I can talk our ops manager to order whatever you need directly from ES. All I need is a part number.

PPS. I have a bag of new/unused genuine Honda OEM rear LCA bushings left over from our R&D. Interested? PM me.


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what did you change and why?
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 04:55 AM
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...if we are talking about rear LCAs then buy stock as was suggested above and press in Mugen hard rubber...or ES. ES will not bind in this application as long as you torque the LAC bolts with the full weight of the car on the wheels, not while they are hanging.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:31 AM
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^x2 he said it right, make sure everything is torqued to spec with the car on the ground.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
what did you change and why?
Change what?

Our arms/bushings have been the same since 12/2002, except for the small V3 update (adjustable sway bar feature) in 9/2005.

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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^x2 he said it right, make sure everything is torqued to spec with the car on the ground.
Actually, preloading the bushings is not necessary with our arms/bushings since our bushing sleeves are not bonded to the polyurethane, and will slip into the correct place as the suspension is loaded.

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Actually, preloading the bushings is not necessary with our arms/bushings since our bushing sleeves are not bonded to the polyurethane, and will slip into the correct place as the suspension is loaded.

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Could you do me one favor though. For us Integra owners can you highlight the fact that you will need longer bolts and nuts and washers for the stock endlinks to fit. That would be very helpful to everyone who is interested in you product, or include the proper hardware. I'm pretty sure it m10x1.25 x 55mm and a couple of flat washers and a locking nut (nylon works). Just a suggestion. It wouldn't cost you guys more than $5 to include the hardware.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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It might be 60mm long, just for some peace of mind.
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