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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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ok so this is the plan so far
h22 type s pistons 11:1 compression stock rods with arp bolts
brian crower stage 3 cams and valvetrain/ head will be cleaned and casting imperfections smoothed/
everything will be portmatched/entire engine will be balance/ i also will be doing a balance shaft removal kit/ skunk2 intake manifold/ aem fuel rail/ skunk2 68 mm tb/ hytech replica header/ mugen exhaust/ stage 2 clutch with a 12lb flywheel/

does this seem like it will be a decent build?
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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no... bump the compression up. You are over cammed.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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can i run 12:1 on pump?
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
can i run 12:1 on pump?
You can run 12.5:1 on pump if you have a good tuner....
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Also ditch the skunk2 TB. Get a Professional products 68mm. Oh and get a Euro R manifold.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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ya ill prob just do 11:1 what is your reasoning for the diff tb, i already know about peoples differnces with the im
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
ya ill prob just do 11:1 what is your reasoning for the diff tb, i already know about peoples differnces with the im
Then throw those cams in the garbage and get a different set. I would recomend nothing bigger than a skunk tuner stage 2 and even that is a big cam for such weinie sucking compression.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
ya ill prob just do 11:1 what is your reasoning for the diff tb, i already know about peoples differnces with the im
That throttle body is junk. I've personally seen a few and heard alot of people having problems with it. Most complain about it sticking. My buddy had one that cause him to lose his motor cause one of the screws holding the throttle plate backed out and got into his motor. Another had the same problem but somehow we couldn't find where the screw went. Professional Products I've had 3 so far and always recommend to friends. There's nothing I have come to find that I'm not happy with. Really good throttle response and cheaper too!

J/w if you want, I have a Euro R with PP TB and 440 Saturated RC's I might want to sell. By the way I made 221 whp and 169 TQ on a bone stock h2b, camp 1320 header.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
ya ill prob just do 11:1 what is your reasoning for the diff tb, i already know about peoples differnces with the im
Prob because its way cheaper for the professional product TB and they are pretty much just like a stock TB just bigger with no sticking issues or anything.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Prob because its way cheaper for the professional product TB and they are pretty much just like a stock TB just bigger with no sticking issues or anything.
Thats right.

Wow I just checked ebay and the skunk2's are running $300...? There is one seller selling the PP for 100 bucks. I say save that $200 for a tune or something else.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lunatics209
Thats right.

Wow I just checked ebay and the skunk2's are running $300...? There is one seller selling the PP for 100 bucks. I say save that $200 for a tune or something else.
yeah for a mild build like the OP's the Pro products is a good buy. for sure use that 2 bills somewhere else.

To the OP Good luck! post up some #'s when its done. and some pics of the car/setup.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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go with crower stage 2 if its gona be a DD
stage 3 if ur gona be driving it 2-3 times a week
if u go if stage 3 id rather go with skunk2 stage 3, their meaner cams
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
ok so this is the plan so far
h22 type s pistons 11:1 compression stock rods with arp bolts
brian crower stage 3 cams and valvetrain/ head will be cleaned and casting imperfections smoothed/
everything will be portmatched/entire engine will be balance/ i also will be doing a balance shaft removal kit/ skunk2 intake manifold/ aem fuel rail/ skunk2 68 mm tb/ hytech replica header/ mugen exhaust/ stage 2 clutch with a 12lb flywheel/

does this seem like it will be a decent build?

i run a set up like that a few years ago, type s piston with crower stage 3 and Euro R IM, TB 68 Ml, Hytech Header and 3 inch exhaust i make 220 whp and 155 wtq, maybe you got overcame like says 2point6, its something dificult to understaind, since i feel my engine runs very good, later i upgrade to mahle piston dont gain a lot hp , but engine Feels really really fastest than before.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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Yeah, the stage 3 are way too aggressive for 11:1 compression.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:46 AM
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hmmm ok so stage 2 it is
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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my vote
13.5 cr pro3's
euroR mani with a blox 72mmt/b
and an SSR header
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM JEFFREY
my vote
13.5 cr pro3's
euroR mani with a blox 72mmt/b
and an SSR header
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM JEFFREY
my vote
13.5 cr pro3's
euroR mani with a blox 72mmt/b
and an SSR header
I'm pretty sure this is a daily driver from the OP saying that hes running an exhaust on it.. not sure the 13.5 compression would be too great on the pump gas to cruise around.. hahaha.

Oh and in rereading the post he actually asked about pump gas.. So i'd say 13.5 is a little high for him. .


Its what i would personally like to run if i was building this.
But then again i wouldnt drive that type of build around every day..
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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yea them cams are WAY to big for 11.1, i would go lower on cam size and a really good port job and tune. You should be around 240 250 mark. ooooo skunk2 throttle bodys suck!! TRUST ME when ull get one of the flapper screws loose and suck one in and destroy you're engine and have skunk2 say ow well. Ull thank people for sayin go with a professional products.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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a properly setup pair of pro2's i do not believe are out of the question. You, of course, will not be getting all the power they can produce but i've seen them do decent on less compression.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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oooo and make sure your changing over to a manual timing tensioner setup with them big cams if u plan on goin to 8k rpm.
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