I got a 96 civic DX and i was planning on doing a SOHC turbo but decided where i live at every ones got a turbo car... ssoooo i wanna build a fast all motor car to beat OR keep up with the turbo cars...

Which do u think is better a GSR or a LS-v

If i was gonna do a GSR i was gonna do Poor mans type-R.... n if ls LS vtec..

Im leaning more towards a GSR cause its got higher compression allready... but just want sum other oppinions this is gonna b my first swap in MY OWN car and my first build in my own car

Used to help my brother with his B16.. all time... but i never made my mind up on wat motor i wanted n finally narrowed it down...

 

you're not going to keep up with any turbo cars..

 

I'm not sure why you'd be worried about the stock compression.

If I was building an NA motor to keep up with turbos, I'd be switching out the pistons to get a higher compression ratio.

 

Neither. You wanna keep up with the turbo B and D series, get a K series in a light chassis.

 

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I've tuned mildly done ls/vtecs with pro1's that run neck and neck with 12 psi sohc boosted cars..just a thought.. most people think turbo is the end all be all, it surely is not.

 

Serious, my cousin's stock k-powered crx runs 12.5

 

my stock H2b crx ran 12.1 at Fontana. I did switch to K however and made a crapload more power with a very basic build..

To the OP.. either an Ls vtec or a GSR is going to get worked by even a barely decent turbo car.

Go H2B or K!

 

I assure you a properly built ls/vtec even mildly wont get worked by a turbo car.

If you do a gsr, stroke it with a ls crank.. making it a 1.9.. go bigger then 81.5 go at least 82mm if not bigger.. no replacement for displacement.. food for thought.

 

If you can't do a K, this is a way to do it. QFT

 

Why not the b20? 2.0 FTW!

If I was to do a budget build I would look into b20 RS itr's 85mm and spend a good amount of money into the head. 250+ WHP guaranteed.

 

who around here has turbo cars? its a RARE occasion i see a turbo honda and if i do its some ghetto piece of trash thrown together that looks like ****

 

ls crank makes a gsr the same displacement as a ls.... 1835cc's not 1.9

 

i got an gsr with a mild build to the head and it runns hard i 've beaten b20 and lsv soo go gsr they are more reliable den lsv and b20 r hard to get unless ur buying new.. all motor gsr run hard and no need to buy heads and head gasket kits jus build it go pro1's all day h2b is nice but not cheap

 

82mm bore+ PR3 RSmachines pistons make it more than LS displacement and higher CR if you re going with pro cams you will need that.

but if you want to keep up with turbo cars it will cost you. no replacement for your wallet's displacement.

 

dud youll be beating srt4 with a stock h2b.
they run 12's stock with slicks. they have trouble beating u unless the bump their boost. motor =5+tranny=5+qsd/evo kit=7=1200.00 but you also have to get motor mounts coustom headers alternator relocator **** like that .............

 

ls, go bold and different, i turn customers heads when i show them my track car and show them the ls motor..... wont waist everyones time but its almost 580 hp... and its a ls...

jaw dropper......

 

that is so true man! its really rare for me to c a nicely boosted honda and "tuned"!

 

im going to have to say that the b20 is probably your best option here. they arent hard to find, pretty cheap, b16 or gsr head, and combined with a good set of cams, good compression, a lil porting, good IM, good header and exhaust, and a GOOD tune.........you will probably see 250hp(212-225 at the wheels). and all that wont take some enourmous budget either. find a good b16 lsd tranny(youll probably need that lsd) and you should be set.

also your power will be very progressive, instead of ALOT of turbo setups where they have nothing down low and then the power just explodes up high..........which means they might be losing grip. yours should be more linear so that if you are about to lose grip youll feel it before it happens and can adjust your throttle accordingly.

BUT lets not forget some other things there............brakes, tires, suspension upgrades cannot be overlooked. gotta have a way to control all that power.