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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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So I was getting gas today and went to start the car to leave and bam. no start. If I hold the key in the cranking position and push and release the clutch I do hear a clicking under the dash but no turning over. I was able to get her bump started and she drove home fine. I removed the starter relay and am going to start there. What do you guys think?
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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could be clutch interlock switch, ignition switch, or starter solenoid.

when it acts up again have someone check voltage at the trigger wire on the starter. if you see voltage then the clutch switch and ign switch are fine, but starter/solenoid is likely toast. if no voltage then check the previously mentioned switches.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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I forgot to mention that if I hold the key in the crank position, the radiator fan kicks on. I also just ran a lead from the solenoid switch(the black wire from the harness) to the positive battery terminal and it didnt crank over at all. I
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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interesting. i have to imagine it's not supposed to do that lol. when the car was running before did the fan always run? maybe your fan switch is muffed up.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Heh, I have this problem. My car would did this for a few months. Then it went away for 5 months, then it came back the other day... Hmm I'm lazy ( h22a in a few weeks, so i dont even bother with the old engine )
I would turn the key, hear the relay click, but no starty starty. Try about 8-10 times, and, boom. Sometimes its when you hold the key on, and pump the clutch.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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I also just ran a lead from the solenoid switch(the black wire from the harness) to the positive battery terminal and it didnt crank over at all. I
The starter solenoid gets voltage on the small Blk/Wht wire. The starter motor gets voltage on the large Blk wire. Try the test again but run the wire from the battery to the Blk/Wht wire terminal. Of course, make sure the transmission is in neutral.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Heh, I have this problem. My car would did this for a few months. Then it went away for 5 months, then it came back the other day... Hmm I'm lazy ( h22a in a few weeks, so i dont even bother with the old engine )
I would turn the key, hear the relay click, but no starty starty. Try about 8-10 times, and, boom. Sometimes its when you hold the key on, and pump the clutch.
This describes my car also. for the past 4 or so years, every 6-9 months my car does exactly the same thing. Holding the key to get it started, flicking the key and pushing in the clutch would work too and then it would go back to normal for a good long time. I have the clicking relay out and am also going to take the starter to be tested along with it tomorrow. I did try to light up the starter as stated above but it didn't turn over so I wouldnt be surprised if it's the starter and has been the whole time just slowly degrading. I just recently got off a tough starting cycle and I'm wondering if that's the final straw for the starter. We'll see tomorrow.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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The starter solenoid gets voltage on the small Blk/Wht wire. The starter motor gets voltage on the large Blk wire. Try the test again but run the wire from the battery to the Blk/Wht wire terminal. Of course, make sure the transmission is in neutral.
Sorry man my bad. I meant to say that I ran the wire from the battery + to the solenoid terminal on the starter(even fashioned my own little connector on the terminal end). And like I said. nothing. The starter made no sound.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Does your fuel pump prime too? I think I noticed that it would not when it didn't want to start.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Does your fuel pump prime too? I think I noticed that it would not when it didn't want to start.
I want to say yes.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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I want to say yes.
You can kind of hear it once you turn your key.

I'm going to replace my stock pump with a walbro 255 hp anyway (importrp rocksss)
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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You can kind of hear it once you turn your key.

I'm going to replace my stock pump with a walbro 255 hp anyway (importrp rocksss)
I'm not worried about the pump. The car runs sweet while driving. It's defiantly a starter/electrical issue.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 05:07 AM
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I have the same issue (1995 honda accord dx 2.2 none vteck) yet when I ran the jumper to the starter the starter cranked. I checked all my fuses and they are fine, but the fuse ( No. 9 (7.5A))under the dash dose not light the test light. I preformed the Ignition switch test on the honda t-manual pg 23-74 step 3 position 1 failed. 2 and 3 worked. I am suppose to repair as necessary, but don’t have a clue what repair they are talking about. Thank you in advance for any help.
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If the large Blk wire to the starter motor also has voltage and the transmission ground wire is fine, then your starter must be bad.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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well I tested the solonoid voltage wire and there's juice to that. Took the starter in and had it tested. FAIL!!!! got the new starter in and I think that I'm having some grounding issues. I got it to fire up but there still some clicking and even sparks! I cleaned up the main power connector to the starter. What I'm wondering is there are 3 cables coming off of the tranny ground terminal. one goes right to the chassis, one goes to what looks like the vtec solenoid, and the last one I'm not sure where it's supposed to go. It came off from somewhere and now I can't find where it goes. It's an 8 gauge wire. I'm prolly going to replace the 4 gauge chassis ground with a nice new piece as this one looks like it's in pretty bad shape.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 04:57 AM
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I've got a 1995 Civic EX similar issues. Mine is an automatic. Does not crank, fuel pump primes. No solenoid kick, no starter sound. Just replaced Main relay, did not help THIS issue(needed to be done anyway). Going to test voltage at the "solenoid trigger wire" next. Is that the small black & white wire?
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Old May 22, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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It's not easy but look at the rubber button that makes the clutch interlock switch (obviously manual transmission only). Mine had dry rotted and fallen out.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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I have a 2003 civic. No start Went thru litany of troubleshoots.I checked and i can jump solenoid wire to battery positive and she'll start.Now i will put an intermittent push button switch between the positive batt and the solenoid and it will be loike the old days.push button to start.
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