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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:18 AM
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Anyone care to draw out the best line for this track, or maybe give some hints...




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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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Anyone care to draw out the best line for this track, or maybe give some hints...



just like this

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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I'd be happy to point it out but I dunno where the start and finish is.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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I'd be happy to point it out but I dunno where the start and finish is.
Its at the top straight away where the black line is.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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What track is this?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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This is the part that I need help with

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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Karting? What kind of power do the karts put out? are they rear brake only? If they're really momentum machines, then it may change the strategy a bit...
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maybe????
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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SOMEBODY is gearing up for enduro!
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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Karting? What kind of power do the karts put out? are they rear brake only? If they're really momentum machines, then it may change the strategy a bit...
Yep. I think these are 5.5hp. Not 100% on the braking. I have seen people using both the brake and gas.. But yeah, you want to keep the momentum going if possible.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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SOMEBODY is gearing up for enduro!
lol. I cant do it cause my wouldbe teammate is getting married during one of the weekends. I'm working on getting a overhead of that track too though.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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Is there a way to carry more momentium through this turn?




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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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This is the part that I need help with

When taking an "S", you have to sacrifice the exit of the first turn in order to take the second turn at the best angle. In this exemple, you would enter the S wide (on the right side) but exit "tight" (on the left side of the road) in order to be wide entering the second curve an catch the apex at the right spot then exit like a regular curve carrying as much speed as possible. (Is this clear to anyone ???)


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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maybe????
that was close to what I was thinking.

about the best you can do with crude tools and a small pic.

maybe a little farther track left entering the carousel


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Is there a way to carry more momentium through this turn?




[Modified by jond, 2:33 PM 9/17/2002]
In this drawing I would try to exit the first curve of the S a little more to the left of the road.
That way you are in better position to attack the second curve
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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The line that Spikey produced is about the best you can do with a track map.

How you deal with the short radius hairpin depends on a lot of factors that cannot be represented with a drawing.

In slow - out fast is my advice.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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In slow - out fast is my advice.
yes , yes.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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Cool. Thanks for eveyones help. Its hard to slow down before it seems like I need to, but I guess you have to in order to set yourself up for the exit turn.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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tsunami_zc has it almost the way I would suggest....but...

for that "S" turn your having problems with, you will want to be right in the middle of the track during the mid-turn when you slow down. this way you will not need to brake as severely to make the turn. you should end up on the outside lane when your done. heres a picture.

only problem with tsunami's diagram i see is that people will be fighting for that inside tight turn, and it might be better to run it slightly outside that danger zone so you can keep your momentum up.






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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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In slow - out fast is my advice.

yes , yes.
no, no. I'd suggest fast in, fast out
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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no, no. I'd suggest fast in, fast out
......in a perfect world.........
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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no, no. I'd suggest fast in, fast out

......in a perfect world.........
yup..in a world with no gravity....physics y00 ...use it
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Looks like Allsports GP in Sterling to me.

Me and some other H-T guys ran an enduro there a couple months ago. Quite fun. I'll show you the line I like to take around there, but for our enduro they pulled out one of the bariers before the last turn, just to give it a new flavor.

Also, I don't think that diagram is very accurate anymore. The left-hander setting up for the tight hairpin doesn't double back as much as shown, as far as I can remember.

BTW, they have a map posted up on the wall that shows the optimal line through the track.

Here. Try this.



This would be a qualifying line. If you have someone behind you, you will get nabbed at the hairpin every time.


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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Most of you need to draw the line to go a little deeper in turn 1 before turning in.
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