OK, I have been researching the sht out of this for the last week or so and I have seen it all, all kinds of all motor swaps, head swaps, but nothing detailed for h22a1 head onto my f22a4 block. My car, as it stands right now, is great. I bought it from the original owner last year and he did regular everything at the dealer. I do all my own oil changes, never past 5k miles. I'm pretty sure everything is in good shape less the usual worn rings. I got 230k and still going strong.

But I have been getting the urge to drop a h22a1 head in it. I found what appears to be a good site cylinderheads.com that offers less than 450 for an h22a1. I haven't called for a total price yet but I don't really think 450 for that head is a bad deal and it's rebuilt. I see many people have said they've done a lot of these but there really is no detailed info on this. The f22b1 block and h22a1 head doesn't really apply to my car, I know it's similar but something more along the lines of a f22a DIY would be great. If not, then just a list of all the parts that I would need from the h22a1 to make it work would be nice.

Found some great info here...
http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...ad.php?t=17440

But the advice there is for a complete swap. It's def good info though.

I know a full swap is possible but I don't really want to have to spend too much money. I would love to know what parts bottom end would HAVE to be replaced. I was talking to a friend who said that I could drop the oil pan take off the caps and bearings and push the pistons out and change the rings but I don't know what all that would wind up entailing in terms of other work and would problems that could cause with the piston coming out and stuff. I kinda want to keep what I can on the car and keep the cost down. I don't care at all for turboing and this appears to be what most look at when doing swaps. Just don't care for it. I want to keep it street legal.

I also know that the head would have to have some ports plugged.

any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance

 

check FAQ here.

 

how much whp are you looking to get out of this setup

 

Nothing at all about h22a1 head on a f22a block, only f22b blocks. Trust me, I've done the research. I've seen lots of people claiming to have done it but they never really shared their research. I'm hoping those people can share their insight.



Not really looking at whp, this is gonna be a daily commuter street car. I love vtec and would love to find the way to get the h22a1 head on my car.

 

Didn't you have one of these at some point? I thought I read you posting that you did. If so, how did you pull it off?

What kind of compression minimum would be something I should shoot for without compromising the integrity of the block and how would I pull it off with minimum work, ie new low end parts-wise?

What would I need or should I do to help protect my car when high revving? Doesn't the h22a ecu control rev limiting, can I get away with upwards of 7k rpms?

 

Your building a bomb. I would say leave it stock or do a full rebuild when you put the H22 head on your f22 block otherwise the first time you find the revlimiter its going to explode.

 

just an FYI to all CA residents...

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm

This swap won't jive with CA emissions CARB standards. It'll fail the visual test.

Heads Replacement heads must be identical to the original part. Head swaps from different years, engines or makes are illegal. Aftermarket heads or valve train components that are not made to the same specifications as the original parts require an Executive Order to be legal for street use.
Replacement Engines Entire engines can be replacement parts. As with any other replacement part, the engine must be identical to the original. If the replacement block or engine is obtained without emissions equipment, all the equipment from the original engine must be installed on the replacement block. If the engine is not identical to the original then it is not a replacement part, instead it is considered an engine change. Engine changes are a modification that must meet certain requirements to be legal (please see "Engine Changes"). Japanese Replacement Engines Used engines imported from Japan can be used as replacement engines as long as the engine being used has been identified as functionally identical to the original engine. Please refer to the engine importers catalogue to determine if a replacement engine is legal for installation in your vehicle. Engine Changes Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:

• The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
• The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
• If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
• All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
  
• Vehicles converted to 100% electric drive, with all power supplied by on-board batteries are considered in compliance with the engine change requirements. All fuel system components must be removed prior to inspection. For additional information contact the ARB helpline at (800) 242-4450

After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.

Clearly what that's saying is that If I want to put a used JDM motor in, it has to be the same engine for that car and I'd have to swap the emissions stuff onto the newly swapped JDM engine for it to also pass CA smog. If I want to swap an engine from another car into my car it has to be a California certified (ie KLxxx) based engine and it has to be same year or newer.

One thing to note and a possible loophole when buying a new car from another state is this...

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/NonCAVeh/NonCAVeh.pdf

Page 2: Persons
Moving to
California:
(Including
Military
Personnel)
If you are moving to California
from another state, you may register a
new federally certified vehicle if it
was first registered by you in your
home state, or for military personnel,
in the state of your last military
service. When applying for vehicle
registration in California, you must
provide evidence of you vehicle's
previous registration. A temporary
operating permit is acceptable proof.

Looks like all you'd need to do is go buy a car in another state...eg. Oregon where they don't have sales tax...and register it, then bring the registration to CA DMV and register it there, saving money on the sales tax for the car.

Obviously I'm just gonna have to find a whole H22A1 engine and swap the whole thing in.

 

Hell, yes

BTW Euro 5 killed Civic Type-R and Subaru in Europe... I wonder what is Porsche going to do... or other companies producing strong vehicles.

 

Ok. Everything else aside. Does anyone know how to do this swap? Is this similar to the H23 head on a F22x block? Just plus the Vtec componets?

 

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It's nice that you are advertising your plans for tax evasion on a public forum but you obviously haven't thought far enough ahead. Have you ever registered a vehcile in the US of A before? I'd guess not because you do realize that it requires a RESIDENCE in the county/state that you are trying to register it in. You can sure try to just walk in to an out-of-state DMV and tell them you want to register some P.O.S. car but be prepared to watch as they laugh you out the door.


Let me slightly modify a great movie quote:

"Only steers and queers come from California....but I don't see no cattle 'round here, boy."