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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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ok so i have a ef sedan. been working on the suspension an thinking its time to start on the motor.
i have a d15b non vtec.everyone i kno says swap it.its not worth building.im not really try'na hear that here.
this is my very first build.
so basically i dont kno were to start so if anybody has any advice on were to start or anything. that'd be great!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/emsmiled.gif
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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It's because it's not worth building.

But, if you want to build it...
Do a DPFI to MPFI swap, cold air intake, headers. Then decide if that wasted money could have gone towards a Z6/Y7 swap.
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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do you mean a swap the head or the motor its self?
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrysanderson
do you mean a swap the head or the motor its self?
Swapping the intake manifold. Yours should be the big, circular, black intake. It is a DPFI manifold (dual point fuel injection)
You need MPFI (Multipoint)
It'll get you from 70hp to 100hp. There is a write-up in the faq sticky.
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadian_EF
It's because it's not worth building.

But, if you want to build it...
Do a DPFI to MPFI swap, cold air intake, headers. Then decide if that wasted money could have gone towards a Z6/Y7 swap.
what the hell would he want a z6 with a y7 head for?

it's all money wasted anyway unless you boost the single slammer. if you're not running boost then put the money towards a dohc engine.
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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the motor has 92 hp right now not 70.how much would the switch cost.

and to d16sihatch- i do plan on boosting it
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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well ok then lol.
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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z6 swap on like 8 psi is a very good start...unless u wanna build the lil d u already got.
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
what the hell would he want a z6 with a y7 head for?

it's all money wasted anyway unless you boost the single slammer. if you're not running boost then put the money towards a dohc engine.
i think he meant z6 OR y7...
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 01:26 AM
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ok when you say z6 or y7 your talking about a d16 motor right? ( im new to this honda stuff so yeah )
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
what the hell would he want a z6 with a y7 head for?

it's all money wasted anyway unless you boost the single slammer. if you're not running boost then put the money towards a dohc engine.
I did not say anything about putting a Z6 head on a Y7. I actually did mean to put Y8 though, saying that those miiiight be ideal swaps to do.

and yes, D16Z6 or Y8 would be neato. Make sure you're at MPFI first though...
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 02:30 AM
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yup. d16z6 was found in 92-95 si hatch's, ex coupes, delsol si's and i want to say lx sedans in the states (or maybe they're ex sedans, my memory is sketchy on that one)

d16y7 was found in most 96-01 civic hb's, coupes and sedans, excluding hx, ex and si models, and the delsol vtec. the hx recieved the d16y5 "vtec-e", ex recieved the d16y8, and the si and delsol vtec recieved the b16a something.

only bad thing about y7's and y8's are the single oiling ports on the crank shaft, which leads to a higher risk of spun bearings if proper maintenance (including fixing leaks and topping off fluids) is not performed.

another popular swap is the jdm d15b vtec swap. obd1 has aprox. 130 hp, drops in and is fun, or so i hear. to use that, however, you'd need to swap to mpfi first, then purchase obd0-obd1 conversion parts, as with any of the above listed swaps to properly swap them
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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so you guys are saying just toss this motor then right?
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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DPFI < MPFI everytime.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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ok so i been thinkin b20b into my lil ef
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chrysanderson
ok so i been thinkin b20b into my lil ef
you'll still have to modify your wiring to be MPFI regardless.
also, remember, you'll need b-series mounts, shift linkage, ecu and axles.
With a D series swap, you don't need different mounts or shift linkage, and you can use your factory axles.
Mounts are like what, $200-$300 ish?
If you're just planning to DD the car, don't swap in a b20. It'll be more work than you're after. Go step by step.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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ok so mpfi swap no matter wat. got that.
i think i will jus stick with the d-series. all that sounds like to much work/money ha
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