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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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Hi everyone, anybody knows whats the SiR 1990 engine, JDM and USDM?...thanks.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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there is no siR USDM

JDM siR - B16a obd0
USDM si - D16a6
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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its a b16 usdm only made the si which should be d16
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SOHConthis
its a b16 usdm only made the si which should be d16
what? the usdm si never had a b16 stock. b16 were never came in a 90-91 in the US.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SOHConthis
Its a b16. USDM only made the si which should be d16
FIXED!!!! Puncuation help people understand what you wrote......
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SOHConthis
It has a OBD0 B16A, USDM only made the Si. Which should have a D16A6.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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a b16a never came in any usdm vehicle, period.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 4g4dcruisin
a b16a never came in any usdm vehicle, period.
nowhere did anybody say that it did..you may want to re-read.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 4g4dcruisin
a b16a never came in any usdm vehicle, period.

b16a2; b16a3

del sol, 94-97 vtec

civic si, 99-00
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexander4508
Hi everyone, anybody knows whats the SiR 1990 engine, JDM and USDM?...thanks.
Originally Posted by brevlle
nowhere did anybody say that it did..you may want to re-read.
Look at the first post, the OP is assuming there is an siR in the united states...thus insinuating there is a stock b16a in a USDM civic, which there never has been.

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b16a2; b16a3

del sol, 94-97 vtec

civic si, 99-00
Do your motor homework, a B16a only came in the siR1, siR2, which were put in a JDM DA integra, JDM civics, and a JDM del sol. The years were from 88-98 for those two motors.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 4g4dcruisin
there is no siR USDM

JDM siR - B16a obd0
USDM si - D16a6
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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naa, my last post in this thread was the finishing post. haha
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 4g4dcruisin
Look at the first post, the OP is assuming there is an siR in the united states...thus insinuating there is a stock b16a in a USDM civic, which there never has been.



Do your motor homework, a B16a only came in the siR1, siR2, which were put in a JDM DA integra, JDM civics, and a JDM del sol. The years were from 88-98 for those two motors.

b16a2 and b16a3 are exact USDM versions of the JDM b16a, minus the pistons which increase compression slightly, and of course the power increase from running no emissions BS
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mattliston
b16a2 and b16a3 are exact USDM versions of the JDM b16a, minus the pistons which increase compression slightly, and of course the power increase from running no emissions BS
So their exactly the same, except they make different power....

Thats like saying the d15b and d16z6 are exactly the same. or the d16z6 and d16y8 are the same.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 4g4dcruisin
So their exactly the same, except they make different power....

Thats like saying the d15b and d16z6 are exactly the same. or the d16z6 and d16y8 are the same.
no not at all

the d15s and d16s have different cranks, different journal dimensions, different rods, etc


the b16a series simply has different pistons

not enough to really classify it as a different motor, especially if jsut a simple rebuild with different pistons can solve the "difference"
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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My attempt at a better answer.......

In 1990, Civic's, crx's, and Integra's could be ordered with the 1st gen OBD0 B16A from pretty much anywhere in the world Honda's were sold "except" North America. The engine came with 160hp and 111ft lbs tq in all three models along with a cable tranny.

Now, to add to that, North America got it's 1st close cousin of this engine in the 1992-93 Integra GSR models known as a B17A. It had the same head and block, with unique rotating assembly displacing 1.7L making the same 160hp, and gained 2ft lbs tq at 113.

Im 1995 (i think), the Del Sol had a limited run of the the "vtec" model, which was basically an OBD1 version of the original B16A making exactly the same power, but now used a hydro tranny.

In 1999 and 2000, the USDM Civic Si was released (Known as an SiR in Canada) which had our only other version of the B16A which still made 160hp and 111 ft lbs tq, used a hydro tanny and ran a obd2B setup.


Oversea's B16A's (outside North America) made and extra 10hp rated at 170hp starting in 1991 in their Civic EG and Del Sol model cars right up to the year 2000. The extra power came from P30 pistons which bumper compression from 10.2:1 to 10.4:1, other wise it was the same! Japan and other countries were lucky in that "ALL" years of B16A engines came with tranny's that "could" have the LSD option. USDM never got lsd at all with that engine
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Deetz
My attempt at a better answer.......

In 1990, Civic's, crx's, and Integra's could be ordered with the 1st gen OBD0 B16A from pretty much anywhere in the world Honda's were sold "except" North America. The engine came with 160hp and 111ft lbs tq in all three models along with a cable tranny.

Now, to add to that, North America got it's 1st close cousin of this engine in the 1992-93 Integra GSR models known as a B17A. It had the same head and block, with unique rotating assembly displacing 1.7L making the same 160hp, and gained 2ft lbs tq at 113.

Im 1995 (i think), the Del Sol had a limited run of the the "vtec" model, which was basically an OBD1 version of the original B16A making exactly the same power, but now used a hydro tranny.

In 1999 and 2000, the USDM Civic Si was released (Known as an SiR in Canada) which had our only other version of the B16A which still made 160hp and 111 ft lbs tq, used a hydro tanny and ran a obd2B setup.


Oversea's B16A's (outside North America) made and extra 10hp rated at 170hp starting in 1991 in their Civic EG and Del Sol model cars right up to the year 2000. The extra power came from P30 pistons which bumper compression from 10.2:1 to 10.4:1, other wise it was the same! Japan and other countries were lucky in that "ALL" years of B16A engines came with tranny's that "could" have the LSD option. USDM never got lsd at all with that engine
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EatMyVTEC :]
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Deetz
My attempt at a better answer.......

In 1990, Civic's, crx's, and Integra's could be ordered with the 1st gen OBD0 B16A from pretty much anywhere in the world Honda's were sold "except" North America. The engine came with 160hp and 111ft lbs tq in all three models along with a cable tranny.

Now, to add to that, North America got it's 1st close cousin of this engine in the 1992-93 Integra GSR models known as a B17A. It had the same head and block, with unique rotating assembly displacing 1.7L making the same 160hp, and gained 2ft lbs tq at 113.

Im 1995 (i think), the Del Sol had a limited run of the the "vtec" model, which was basically an OBD1 version of the original B16A making exactly the same power, but now used a hydro tranny.

In 1999 and 2000, the USDM Civic Si was released (Known as an SiR in Canada) which had our only other version of the B16A which still made 160hp and 111 ft lbs tq, used a hydro tanny and ran a obd2B setup.


Oversea's B16A's (outside North America) made and extra 10hp rated at 170hp starting in 1991 in their Civic EG and Del Sol model cars right up to the year 2000. The extra power came from P30 pistons which bumper compression from 10.2:1 to 10.4:1, other wise it was the same! Japan and other countries were lucky in that "ALL" years of B16A engines came with tranny's that "could" have the LSD option. USDM never got lsd at all with that engine
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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i think his question has been answered, why are people arguing about stupid stuff like what engine came in cars that are completely not related to his question
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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last post....GOOGLE homie you'll find wat u need.
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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the "extra" engine that came w my 1991 crx si.True SiR 5million seriez swap w/Y1 lsd 5spd about to go in...
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BiGZ
the "extra" engine that came w my 1991 crx si.True SiR 5million seriez swap w/Y1 lsd 5spd about to go in...
You better hope the tranny is still good. Y1 were the worst for grinding issues. The YS1 were the very best of the cable vtec b series
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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You better hope the tranny is still good. Y1 were the worst for grinding issues. The YS1 were the very best of the cable vtec b series
Extremely low mileage,so But yeah I've read YS1 not best for boozt,Y1 is...
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Extremely low mileage,so But yeah I've read YS1 not best for boozt,Y1 is...
Who told you that?
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