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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Hello Everyone!!!!!!!

Let me introduce myself a lil..I have been in the honda game for a longgggg time. I am a broke college student lolol that is graduating the end of DEC. I plan on gathering the parts over the next few month and tuning and assembling by feb/march. I have been racing for a long time as while (street and strip, no more street no more). I have a 95 civic hatch w/ a JDM gsr (b18c). I was previously turboed with a b18c1 but now im gonna go all motor. I plan on doing a semi-build... more specifically a fully built head and full bolt ons.

here are my current plans subject to change of course:

-blox type b or c cams
-full blox valve train including flat top valves
-skunk2 70mm tb (already have)
-skunk2 intake manifold (have)
-aem fuel rail w/ fuel pr (have)
-header (hytech replica)
-ctr n1 crank pulley (have)
-OEM honda gaskets
-OEM type r oil & water pump
-dyno tuned with hondata s200


I am hoping to make around 200 whp...mind you this is in a fully gutted cx hb currently weighing 2214 with me a 190lb driver.

Here is my dilemma: I have been doing TONSSSSSSSss of research about Blox and their products, more specifically their cams and valvetrain. I haven't found much info about people's experience with them. Therefore i am turning to the honda-tech gurus LOL :D. I would REALLY appreciate if people would please share their experiences with blox cams and valvetrain...including dyno numbers and mods...i would further appreciate if you could show dyno sheets. Please do not turn this into a Blox bashing session, no heir-say stories; only real concrete experiences. I really just want a quick mid-high 12sec all motor hatch for the moment until i fully build it later in life when i have the funds needed.

I just want to GREATLY THANK EVERYONE in advance for taking the time to read this wall of text LOL and contributing and helping me!
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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i currently run blox type C's in my motor..
buddy's car setup:
factory honda parts bottom end (1.8L)
port flow head
blox type C's
car put down 243 whp on blox C's. they tried skunk pro 1s and 2s but the C's made the most power. i can text him to see if he will post a dyno sheet. on a dyno that reads low too! he was on a very nice intake mani and header tho.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Quarter Performance
i currently run blox type C's in my motor..
buddy's car setup:
factory honda parts bottom end (1.8L)
port flow head
blox type C's
car put down 243 whp on blox C's. they tried skunk pro 1s and 2s but the C's made the most power. i can text him to see if he will post a dyno sheet. on a dyno that reads low too! he was on a very nice intake mani and header tho.
What does the bottom end consists of and the compression and is it using an ls crank and what pistons.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Quarter Performance
i currently run blox type C's in my motor..
buddy's car setup:
factory honda parts bottom end (1.8L)
port flow head
blox type C's
car put down 243 whp on blox C's. they tried skunk pro 1s and 2s but the C's made the most power. i can text him to see if he will post a dyno sheet. on a dyno that reads low too! he was on a very nice intake mani and header tho.

thanks for contributing, i aprreciate it and i would like if you can get in touch with him for more info as to his mods and possibly a dyno sheet........Anyone else with experiences with blox love or hate?
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by h23V
What does the bottom end consists of and the compression and is it using an ls crank and what pistons.
ok guys i was at the dyno today and this motor setup was brought up again..it was not the oem 1.8L bottom end like i thought it was. still tried all those cams and the blox C's made the most power. GL
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Compression doesn't matter.

bloxC's will be a better cam choice period.
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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thanks alot everyone that contributed....quatermileperformance do u know what compression ratio your friend had on his build? and also which cam do u like better the blox type c or b
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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The thing to remember is that all blox cams are a replica of another brand (mostly Skunk2) The type C that was mentioned is a copy of Jun 3 cams. If you want to see how they dyno, just look at the dyno threads in this section and check out the skunk cams as well as others that run the blox cams.
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Blox C's will make pretty good power but they also can break. This happened to me.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StreetLethaleg6
thanks alot everyone that contributed....quatermileperformance do u know what compression ratio your friend had on his build? and also which cam do u like better the blox type c or b
i believe 12.5:1 comp and also ive never personally ran blox b's or known anyone running the b's. always went to the C.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Quarter Performance
i believe 12.5:1 comp and also ive never personally ran blox b's or known anyone running the b's. always went to the C.
thanks alot man...do you think i would be alright if i ran only 11:1 comp with the type C's or is that too low?
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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That's fine.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
That's fine.
thanks.... is it true that blox cams are bad quallity cuz i hear a lot of people bad mouthing them saying they are prone to breaking? i feel like its a lot of heir-say and bashing rather than truth.........could someone please comment with experience

edit; experience with blox cams please good or bad
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Mar778c above had one of them break and in his case you can clearly tell it was a faulty cam and not installation error. All I can say is that it happens from time to time with various manufacturers and in most cases it's installer error. I'd ask Mar778c what kind of service he got from Blox when he had this failure and that should help tell you what company you want to deal with in the future,
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
Mar778c above had one of them break and in his case you can clearly tell it was a faulty cam and not installation error. All I can say is that it happens from time to time with various manufacturers and in most cases it's installer error. I'd ask Mar778c what kind of service he got from Blox when he had this failure and that should help tell you what company you want to deal with in the future,
i can't thank u enough 00Red Sir......u have been very helpfull!
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetLethaleg6
thanks alot man...do you think i would be alright if i ran only 11:1 comp with the type C's or is that too low?
every cam manufacturer is going to have cams break..always seems to happen to someone. ive had friends/customers snap skunk2 pro series cams..whether it be install error or defect. i personally would not worry at all about breaking a cam. The blox C's are dyno proven to make killer power against cams almost double the price,and they are the best bang for buck.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Quarter Performance
every cam manufacturer is going to have cams break..always seems to happen to someone. ive had friends/customers snap skunk2 pro series cams..whether it be install error or defect. i personally would not worry at all about breaking a cam. The blox C's are dyno proven to make killer power against cams almost double the price,and they are the best bang for buck.
thanks for the help and i agree 100% because i have a friend that broke a pair of skunk2 stg 2 cams. i have also heard of people breaking every brand of cam so blox is no diff. plus i think people are just hating on blox bcuz they are so cheap. I feels its kind of like how people treat rota as being knockoffs is the way they treat blox but in reality both of them get the job done.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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people hate on blox because they don't do any of their own research and development, they simply copy others and produce it. Some people have stong feelings about that, others don't. It's up to the individual to decide.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
people hate on blox because they don't do any of their own research and development, they simply copy others and produce it. Some people have stong feelings about that, others don't. It's up to the individual to decide.
so true, that is what i figured. i feel the same but i am too poor to be basing my decisions on things like that lol.
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