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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Hey honda-tech. finally got my b20vtec really rolling. sent my head out to my local machine shop (Burtonsville Performance Machine Shop). i heard good stuff from my local guys but they're all domestic guys. so i thought it be a good idea to post some of the on here and tell me what you guys think. these pics are from my Droid so not the best quality. if you guys want more pictures just let me know. Its a RS Machine Pro 2 type build. i went supertech valvetrain. all opinions are welcome as long as their within topic.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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Well they certainly didn't touch much in the exhaust port other than the throat from the looks of it. The intake had some minor work to the divider and throat and you can see some minor work around the valves in the combustion chamber, probably in an attempt to deshroud the valves. I doubt the work will impact flow much, the real question is what kind of valve job did they do? what kind of angle cuts did they use?
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:43 AM
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Should've sent it to someone with experience with Honda b series motors. I say you did it wrong by sending it to a domestic shop and not sending to a machinist that has worked with honda's and will ask you what your looking for. Experience will def. show.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Definitely looks mild, but nothing wrong with that. They played it on the safe side and that's good.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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Should've sent it to someone with experience with Honda b series motors. I say you did it wrong by sending it to a domestic shop and not sending to a machinist that has worked with honda's and will ask you what your looking for. Experience will def. show.
to a extent i would agree but my machinest does mustangs for a living but has done imports for professional race teams also machine work is machine work yes it may benefit a lil more if al lthey did was hondas but a good machinest can work on any head import or domestic its all the same technology and if they have a flow bench even better and like stated above 80 percent of the power is in the valve job
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Well they certainly didn't touch much in the exhaust port other than the throat from the looks of it. The intake had some minor work to the divider and throat and you can see some minor work around the valves in the combustion chamber, probably in an attempt to deshroud the valves. I doubt the work will impact flow much, the real question is what kind of valve job did they do? what kind of angle cuts did they use?
well they just call it a performance valve job. no real details. their porter looks at the head and tells you if he can improve the flow and i guess he thought he could. i didnt really as for flowbench results.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Should've sent it to someone with experience with Honda b series motors. I say you did it wrong by sending it to a domestic shop and not sending to a machinist that has worked with honda's and will ask you what your looking for. Experience will def. show.
i wish i had $1,500 sitting around for a real good head job. This head job went for about $800 bucks i mean i always thought that head jobs would all be the same since its the same concept. Its my first build so i cant judge things i really dont know or that i have no experience in
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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Definitely looks mild, but nothing wrong with that. They played it on the safe side and that's good.
haha that puts a piece of mind. as long as they don't mess up the head we'll be fine i guess. safe is better then experiment gone wrong lol
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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to a extent i would agree but my machinest does mustangs for a living but has done imports for professional race teams also machine work is machine work yes it may benefit a lil more if al lthey did was hondas but a good machinest can work on any head import or domestic its all the same technology and if they have a flow bench even better and like stated above 80 percent of the power is in the valve job
thats what i thought when i sent them my head
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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you paid 800 for the machine and port work or for everything in the head? you could have sent that to steve at CC and paid 800 for a damn decent head
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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I paid 800 for head restore performance valve job and port and plush an the jet wash of course. I saw CC Prices an yeah I don't really have $1500 lying around man
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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yeah you dont need the dominator package. look at the max flow. its 800 and has been proven by a few people on this site to be more than enough for a good street motor.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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wow i spent 150 bucks on my head work lol grant it my machinest is my teacher but still all i got was a 3 angle valve job and port matched my intake manifold to the head plus assembly
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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thats what i thought when i sent them my head

lol key words are good machinest lol they might not be as good as they are said to be
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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yeah you dont need the dominator package. look at the max flow. its 800 and has been proven by a few people on this site to be more than enough for a good street motor.
agreed i was gonna say these heads dont need much improvement besides maybe a more agressive valve job def for the street
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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I paid 800 for head restore performance valve job and port and plush an the jet wash of course. I saw CC Prices an yeah I don't really have $1500 lying around man
I had CC do my head and it came in well under $1500. For what you had done on your head, he could have given you more for that same $800 more than likely. At least you took your head to a shop to have it done, which is a far cry from most of the do-it-yourselfer back yard hackers trying to save a buck and end up costing themselves performance.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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damn now I'm kinda upset lol. oh well you live you learn I guess?
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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CC's $600 package looks even better than your current $800 head there. Are you sure you really checked out CC's prices? I see he has a 600, 800, 1000, and 1200. So when does it state 1500? Well I know after valvetrain and all it might be more but still, I think you would have been way better off with CC.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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CC's $600 package looks even better than your current $800 head there. Are you sure you really checked out CC's prices? I see he has a 600, 800, 1000, and 1200. So when does it state 1500? Well I know after valvetrain and all it might be more but still, I think you would have been way better off with CC.
yeah i checked but i guess i only looked at their dominator package. jee this sucks. im gonna end up just having an $800 deck job lol atleast I tried. Guess the prices scared me away. i loafed
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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I had CC do my head and it came in well under $1500. For what you had done on your head, he could have given you more for that same $800 more than likely. At least you took your head to a shop to have it done, which is a far cry from most of the do-it-yourselfer back yard hackers trying to save a buck and end up costing themselves performance.
haha i guess not ALL was bad. thanks for the words of support man. I'll be sure to consult with Honda-tech before next time. Think i can still reach my goal of 220-230whp with this head job? Im not cheaping on any of the other parts.
skunk2 intake
Skunk2 header (hopefully if not Kiddracing)
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Pro 2 cams
skunk2 megapower R exhaust.
and hopefully taking it to JEImportperformance for a tune.
i don't know any better place around here (Silver Spring, MD)
THANKS AGAIN GUYS! MUCH HELPFUL!
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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f*ck JE dont go there. your in silver spring either charm city tuning or go down to tempest. Dont think you'll be hitting 230 with that head work but 210 shouldnt be hard
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yeah i checked but i guess i only looked at their dominator package. jee this sucks. im gonna end up just having an $800 deck job lol atleast I tried. Guess the prices scared me away. i loafed
It's ok. LOL. I just shelled out 2 grand to CC for my head to get done. It'll be done in about a week or so, so can't wait to see how it performs.

220-230 will be doable. A few of my buddy's b20 high compression build were able to reach 220-250 with different head packages. One guy made 225 with stock port head, Pro 2's 13:1 compression. The other made 255 with Tuner 3's with a local guy doing the portwork on his head. I'm currently doing a 85x95 build custom rods and pistons 15:1 compression so we'll see how that goes.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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f*ck JE dont go there. your in silver spring either charm city tuning or go down to tempest. Dont think you'll be hitting 230 with that head work but 210 shouldnt be hard
why the hate on JEI? lol bad experience? I seen tempest up in glen burnie what's charm city? my only real other choice is.drive 5 hours to Evans tuning. I think 220 is doable though hopefully lol
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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It's ok. LOL. I just shelled out 2 grand to CC for my head to get done. It'll be done in about a week or so, so can't wait to see how it performs.

220-230 will be doable. A few of my buddy's b20 high compression build were able to reach 220-250 with different head packages. One guy made 225 with stock port head, Pro 2's 13:1 compression. The other made 255 with Tuner 3's with a local guy doing the portwork on his head. I'm currently doing a 85x95 build custom rods and pistons 15:1 compression so we'll see how that goes.
wanna donate me your head (:
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Originally Posted by negusjuda
to a extent i would agree but my machinest does mustangs for a living but has done imports for professional race teams also machine work is machine work yes it may benefit a lil more if al lthey did was hondas but a good machinest can work on any head import or domestic its all the same technology and if they have a flow bench even better and like stated above 80 percent of the power is in the valve job

This wouldn't happen to be the guy in downtown WB who does all of Fords Roush Mustang stuff would it? Hopefully it isn't.......
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