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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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im swapping a 92 b18b1 in my 92 civic. everything i have read, and everyone who i have talked to has made me believe that everything will bolt in and i wouldnt need to do any wiring. but as im pulling the motor in my integra i noticed that the distributor wire connectors are different. everything else looks the same but the two connectors are different than the ones in my civic. do i just need to wire them in on my civic harness? or what should i do. the connectors have the same amount of wires it just in the civic the connectors are kinda square and the ones for the integra are circle lol. so they arent gonna plug in. so can anyone tell me what i need to do? oh and the color of wires are different....
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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You sure the Integra isn't a '90 or '91? Because it sounds like you have an OBD0 distributor on the B18A1. But either way, you can either hardwire it (I suggest you don't), find a distributor jumper harness, or get an OBD1 distributor.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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i thought it was a 92. and ya its an a1 but im putting a b1 in my civic. i need the distributor and trans from the a1 tho. i have to hard wire it i guess cause my civic is my dd and i only have a couple days to do the swap. do you know where i can find out how to wire it in? and will my ecu still work if its obd0
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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are the plug connectors gray or milky white?

is it one or two plugs?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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your obd1 ecu will not work with the obd0 distributor. assuming it is obd0 and not something else lol
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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they are both two plugs. on the civic they are grey and on the integra they are the white color.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-ed-ef-da...adapter-73435/

so that wouldnt work?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by corbocivicferio
on the integra they are the white color.
white color means the dizzy is in fact an OBD0, you can not use it!!

you need any 92-95 Integra RS/LS/GS dizzy, it will plug right in. FOr the ECU, you want a OBDI PR4 or OBDI P75 to run it
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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that fuc@k!n sucks! anyone wanna buy my swap? lol sorry if thats against the rules to say it was a joke cause im pissed lol
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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You just need a different distributor; keep everything else.
Also, make sure your trans is hydraulic (94+, B18B) because your car is already equipped as such. Changing to an earlier transmission ('93 and older, B18A) will mean converting your car to a cable clutch type.

You're due for a little more research before you tackle this. Fortunately, you've found the right website for all the information you're going to need.

Good luck!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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thanks! my civic is auto tho so i was gonna convert to manual so the cable is ok i think. but so i cant just unpin and repin the connectors to make the distributor i have work? if i can that would be cool but i still dont know about the ecu workin out.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by corbocivicferio
thanks! my civic is auto tho so i was gonna convert to manual so the cable is ok i think. but so i cant just unpin and repin the connectors to make the distributor i have work? if i can that would be cool but i still dont know about the ecu workin out.
No. Listen to Deetz. He is correct. He used to be/still is a Honda mechanic. If he says it won't work, I'd take him face value. It's not hard to find an OBD1 Integra distributor. Any junkyard should have it. It's not like searching for the holy grail or anything....
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Sounds like you might have a 90-91 style B18A1 swap,which is OBD0.

Do NOT hard wire anything! You will basically need to swap some stuff out, and use your Civic's engine harness.

From the top of my head you will need:

- Use Civic engine harness and injectors

- 92-95 Integra LS distributor - part number TD55

- 92-95 Integra ECU - part numbers PR4 or P75

This can be super tricky as there are OBD0 and OBD1 PR4 units (which BTW fail more) and there are also OBD2 P75 ECUs too.

- Engine mounts will not line up if you are trying to use the cable tranny

This means either buy an aftermarket mount kit and cable conversion, or find a hydro tranny

We need more info from you to get into the really detailed stuff. You NEED to find out EXACTLY what you have, because it's sounding to me like your time frame of having this swap isn't going to be nearly as fast as you think if you have a cable trannied OBD0 swap.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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What model civic is it btw, because I believe the CX (D15B8) injectors will be too low CC to run efficiently
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Default Re: dizzy connectors are different??

Oh man it's an auto?

You need an aftermarket conversion mount kit anyways. I don't even know if someone makes an auto-manual conversion mount for a cable tranny either. You need to look into that.

Also:

The pulse rates for the TDC sensor for OBD0 and OBD1 are completely different. Even if you wired it all up right it would not run right - PERIOD.

I know this is part of your ongoing research and all, but these are things you really should have found out BEFORE you bought the swap. If I were you I'd:

- Rethink converting an auto chassis

- Rethink trying to use an OBD0 based swap to start

- Rethink getting this done in a matter of days unless you've done it a few times before (doesn't sound like it - no offense)
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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ok well thanks for your help everyone. i guess im gonna start over and plan a little better. when i bought it i thought it was obd1 and everything. and i didnt think it would be this complicated. but once again thank you for your help, i will be back once i get my **** figured out.

and ya its my first swap attempt
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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hey im doing the same swap and yeah its my first a B18a1 (OBD0) with a cable tranny in to my Del Sol (OBD1) waping out injectors and dizzy and from hydro to cable tranny convertion and runing on a chiped P28
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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so really i should just forget trying to swap the stuff i have into my civic because it would be hard to put the cable trans in my auto chassis? i would need a hydro trans? maybe i will just buy a different car lol
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