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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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i have koni yellows and gc springs but it sits way too low, how can i lift it?
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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By raising the spring perch.

If the perch is all the way to the top of the threads, then you need longer springs to go higher.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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no perches. i dont' know where to find them.

i have these but they slide right over the koni and don't sit.


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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Hahaha! call ground control.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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that will probably cost me just as much as i paid for my konis. give them a call tomorrow hope its not pricey.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinm1981
no perches. i dont' know where to find them.
Wait.

How can you possibly have it installed without spring perches?

The gold piece in the pic below is the spring perch (ignore the left):


Without the perch, the spring has nothing, at all, to sit on...
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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sitting on the silver cups that come with koni's.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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too low in front. i have some oem shocks and adjusters for gc but not the koni ones.


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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinm1981
no perches. i dont' know where to find them.

i have these but they slide right over the koni and don't sit.

Sounds like you don't have the correct GC sleeves for Koni shocks. With GC sleeves, the sleeve sits directly on the circlip, as shown in the pic I posted.

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sitting on the silver cups that come with koni's.
Running it like that is asking for failure. Only a taper end spring is supposed to be used on the Koni supplied spring perch (like an OEM spring). If you're using the Eibach springs that came with the GC sleeves, then they have a flat ground end intended for use on flat perches, such as what is on the GC sleeves.

Call GC and explain the situation. You probably only need the adapter rings to put non-Koni GC sleeves on a Koni shock, if they still offer them. Otherwise, you'll need either different shocks or different sleeves.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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thanks for the info. much appreicated. gotta put the oem shocks on till then.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Use the silver perches included with the Koni shocks. The sleeves will sit on those and work fine. If you're just missing the circlips...well nice going losing those suckers.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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i heard not to do that too.

didn't lose them. i never got any.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thumper64
Use the silver perches included with the Koni shocks. The sleeves will sit on those and work fine. If you're just missing the circlips...well nice going losing those suckers.
Sigh.

The silver spring perch included with the shocks sits on the circlip. There is no way to run them without the circlip.

And do NOT give out unsafe advice like this. Running a threaded sleeve such as GC sleeve on top of the silver spring perch is not safe, and the damage that can happen from doing so has been covered on this site several times.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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one thing is for sure, my car is the most bumpy car i have ever rode in. no suspension travel at all pretty much.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 702Prodigy
Hahaha! call ground control.
i did, would be 160 bucks. i paid 200 for my koni's with springs, tophats and forks. ****ing not worth it..... buying full coilovers.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Sigh.

The silver spring perch included with the shocks sits on the circlip. There is no way to run them without the circlip.

And do NOT give out unsafe advice like this. Running a threaded sleeve such as GC sleeve on top of the silver spring perch is not safe, and the damage that can happen from doing so has been covered on this site several times.


was wondering, do you have the link for this? i was trying to look for it and all i found was circlip failure.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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just buy stiffer springs they wont be compressed as much by the weight of the vehicle and thus it will sit higher.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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and ride harsh. i want a nice ride. also can't have the flat springs sitting on a perch made for regular springs.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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I might as well buy a brand new set of Ground Controls with stiff rates then have a set for street and a set for racing.
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