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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 03:34 AM
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Year: 1995
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Model: Civic DX
Motor Type: JDM D15B VTEC

I took my civic to get emissions and it failed the Hydrocarbons test and the Carbon monoxide test. My CO % Read at 9.19 and it has to be 0.94 or under and my HC ppm read a 298 and it has to be 167 or under. I have reset the timing and replaced the spark plugs adjusted the valve lash. i have no idea on what else i can do. i know there is something wrong cause the CEL is on but when i try to jump it off the SRS blinks and the CEL stays steady.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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When the key is turned to ON(II) (engine not running), does the CEL remain on steady without the service connector jumped? Or does the CEL turn off after 2 seconds?

Have you also replaced the plug wires, cap, and rotor?

(The blinking SRS light indicates a problem with the airbag system)
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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O2 sensor may be stuck... Need to do pinpoint testing at the sensor connector.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:42 AM
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the cel goes off with out the jumper in it, but once the car is cranked it comes back on. But i just fount this out today i have the p06 non-vtec ecu and i need the p08 vtec jdm ecu. i have just ordered one of those and i hope it will fix it. cause the car runs like crap.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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O2 sensor may be stuck... Need to do pinpoint testing at the sensor connector.
just bought a new 02 and it didnt fix it.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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the cel goes off with out the jumper in it, but once the car is cranked it comes back on. But i just fount this out today i have the p06 non-vtec ecu and i need the p08 vtec jdm ecu. i have just ordered one of those and i hope it will fix it. cause the car runs like crap.
That would be a good start...
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunmetal_B20_Hatch
That would be a good start...
i heard that a p06 has the wrong idle and compression settings and it will never work with my jdm d15b vtec
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by streethondar
i heard that a p06 has the wrong idle and compression settings and it will never work with my jdm d15b vtec
that is correct.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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You definitely need the proper ECU.

Nonetheless, here is how to pull the CEL code(s):
The next time the CEL turns on while driving, pull over and leave the engine running. Then jump the service connector.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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You definitely need the proper ECU.

Nonetheless, here is how to pull the CEL code(s):
The next time the CEL turns on while driving, pull over and leave the engine running. Then jump the service connector.
I got 8 quick flashes which is Code 8 TDC position
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
You definitely need the proper ECU.

Nonetheless, here is how to pull the CEL code(s):
The next time the CEL turns on while driving, pull over and leave the engine running. Then jump the service connector.
im gona yank out that sensor right now!
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Check whether the TDC sensor has 350-700 Ohms of resistance.








If the resistance of the TDC sensor is fine, check the TDC wires for a short or open.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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where is that sensor located at?
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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It's inside the distributor.

Just measure resistance across terminals C and G of the distributor plug (not the wire harness plug).
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
It's inside the distributor.

Just measure resistance across terminals C and G of the distributor plug (not the wire harness plug).
someone just said its located by the timing belt? http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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No, that's an 01 Civic (7th generation). You have a 5th generation Civic.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
No. You must be thinking about the CKF sensor near the crank gear of 96-00 Civics.
its bad... how do i take it out?
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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You generally must replace the entire distributor housing when any of the distributor sensors are bad.

If you can find a TDC sensor (resistor), it is possible to remove the bad one and solder in the new one, but most people don't do this.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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You generally must replace the entire distributor housing when any of the distributor sensors are bad.

If you can find a TDC sensor (resistor), it is possible to remove the bad one and solder in the new one, but most people don't do this.
so i need a new dizzy?
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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(is admiring the amount of awesomeness this thread is going through)
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
You generally must replace the entire distributor housing when any of the distributor sensors are bad.

If you can find a TDC sensor (resistor), it is possible to remove the bad one and solder in the new one, but most people don't do this.
on 2nd note everything is fine with the dizzy, so it has to be the ECU Ordering a P08 now.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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I had that damm cel 8 forever and I new my dizzy was good so I never replaced it. I later found out that one of the pins was slightly depinned so it was not making a good connection. So if you know your dizzy is good, I would make sure that it plugs in nice and tight and when you look at the plug you can see all the pins.
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