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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Alright, I have a problem that has been bugging the hell out of me!
I recently did an mpfi swap on my 91 lx sedan AUTO – yes auto seeing as that I’m a family man now J .the problem is that its giving me a code 19 ( auto trans lock solenoid ) and I cant find a reason why its giving me this code if I never had a CEL before the swap. If you guys can give me some info on this it would be awesome.

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Si dizzy
Ps9 ECU ( auto )
Obd1 intake manifold

All the wiring was done mainly by Clipsed ( thanx again! ) and my self
We de pinned/ re pinned the wires on the DS shock tower, added the new injector clips, added the wires for the distributor, switched the wires on the TPS sensor ( if im not mistaken ) soldered, heat shrink, sleeved and ran the wires into the bay.

I de pinned A3 & A7 ( since I had extra ecu plugs J )
I went ahead and cut/ soldered C1 & C2

I went ahead and tried to start and BAUM! Code 19 and no start! LOL
And when I take the key out I hear a “click” coming from the shifter assembly.

Can anyone tell me what I did wrong or what I missed..

Here are some pics so you guys can get a better understand of my problem.















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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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MIKKKKEEE!!! My bad man, try to go over today, but I'm gonna have a BBQ that you can come down if you want.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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its koo man dont trip.
Trying to see if i can get this fixed LOL i'm stumped. idk if we're missing a step seeing as its auto and all the write-ups are done to M/T
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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I just gotta look at it with my manual.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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yeah i know, and i dont have one lol.
damn, am i really the only one thats done this to an auto before or what?
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl167i.htm
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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i tried it but it says to drive it lol. my **** wont start! and i never had a problem with it before the swap which is what is driving me crazy. faulty ECU maybe ?
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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wiring is no bueno
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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wiring IS bueno. same process was taken when doing your swap.and i'm sure its right but seeing as this **** is auto i'm sure theres a stupid lil step im missing or something
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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you running obd-0 or obd-1...did you always have a code 19 or did it happen when you converted the wiring...!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BiG ChOr!Zo
you running obd-0 or obd-1...!!!
obd0 leva
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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probably doesn't matter but is there a reason why your running a obd-1 intake manifold and not the zc one i traded you...did you also borrow waynes world ps9 ecu to verify that the one you got isn't caca...!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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i wanted to make sure this one worked. i'm most likely going to throw the zc one it if it ever starts up

you did a good job cleaning it up
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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something is wrong with your wiring I'm sure. i take it since you never caleld you aren't coming for the BBQ...
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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hey, what throttle body are you using? i know on the one that is supposed to go on the EX there is supposed to be an extra, shorter, throttle cable (looks like the one coming off the gas pedal) and going down to the transmission. i remember my buddy getting on for when we were supposed to do the auto mpfi conversion on his dx hb, but we never got around to doing it. not sure if this is relevant to your code 19.
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Originally Posted by lunalink
i wanted to make sure this one worked. i'm most likely going to throw the zc one it if it ever starts up

you did a good job cleaning it up
i didn't clean that one only the a6 one...thats how fresh looking it got shipped from japan
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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something is wrong with your wiring I'm sure. i take it since you never caleld you aren't coming for the BBQ...
my bad, i ended up taking my mom somewhere i forgot to call mah bad man. it was at your house??

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hey, what throttle body are you using? i know on the one that is supposed to go on the EX there is supposed to be an extra, shorter, throttle cable (looks like the one coming off the gas pedal) and going down to the transmission. i remember my buddy getting on for when we were supposed to do the auto mpfi conversion on his dx hb, but we never got around to doing it. not sure if this is relevant to your code 19.
im using the obd1 (Z6? TB) and that cable you're talking about isnt connected since this TB doesnt have that extra "port" isnt that only for the cruise control???
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i didn't clean that one only the a6 one...thats how fresh looking it got shipped from japan
oh damn! lol. if that cable is my problem i'm going to switch manifolds asap!!
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lunalink
my bad, i ended up taking my mom somewhere i forgot to call mah bad man. it was at your house??



im using the obd1 (Z6? TB) and that cable you're talking about isnt connected since this TB doesnt have that extra "port" isnt that only for the cruise control???


oh damn! lol. if that cable is my problem i'm going to switch manifolds asap!!
I don't think the secondary cable coming off the throttle body to te transmission isfor cruise control. The one for cruise control goes to the small box by the motor mount. The one I'm talking about goes to the transmission. I'm assuming it's a vital part to gave an mpfi a/t part. If I hit up the yards tomorrow I'll check out an ex and snag some pics for you unless you have access to one down there. I normally see 1-3 at the yards every now and again.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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You shouldn't need to swap manifolds just the throttle body or find one with the extra slot and swap out the spring part (idk the technical name)
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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yea it was here at my pad dizzle.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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I have the A6 TB but would it just bolt up even thoe its an obd1 intake mani?

yeah i know what you mean, that cable goes to the tranny. But is that just for the idle ?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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Idk. It could be just for idle. The throttle body should bolt up no problem.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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this writeup has some auto info.
http://www.fourthgenhatch.net/mpfi.html

I pulled a dumb move when I did my mpfi swap and had the wrong plugs plugged into the sensors on the manifold. the green and 2 white plugs are all the same plug really, so you can plug them in wrong. the pictures on fourthgenhatch can help as well as looking where they plugged into your dpfi.
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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^ thats the write up i used to double check my stuff LOL but it doesnt really make sense..idk man FML!
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are the grounds on nice and tight?
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