The rebuild begins....

How she showed up, NO SUSPENSION NO NOTHING....we got creative with getting her off the trailer....don't know the number....don't care....

brian holding her down while i snapped a pic



2 hours later with the help of bryan....


plans...
2011 UTCC event at VIR with Grassroots Motorsports Magazine and NASA (this might be my 2010 car if my si won't straighten.)

K series....

4 lug.....

let the haters hate.....

Finally after seeing and sitting in an ITR at the 1997 Portland Auto Show I own my first ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....roll an arrrrrrrrrrrrr....and right now all my r will do is roll!


UPDATE

Some parts started showing up.......








Stealing parts from this block with a hole in the side to finish k24/20 build


i only mount with HASport....



Race car fix'd....glad cause I didn't want to have to swap everything over from race car to ITR in 1 week!!

 

I understand K, but why 4 lug??

 

like i said let em hate.....

why would you spend 5 times as much when you can have the same stopping power for for 200 bucks or less??

 

Massive win, in for the updates!

 

I see two of the same pic? Looks like it will only roll with the help of the jacks =P.

 

LOL!! 5-lug isn't necessary for the track. Did your si have a k20 or will this be your first? Looks like one fun rebuild.

 

fixxord

 

k20a, k20a, k24, k20a3, k20a3, k24/20.....

si has k24/20 right now....

itr will get a k24/20 build....might build for the $2011 grassroots challenge....can't spend more than 2011 bucks on the car.....right now....i wouldn't even be close

 

Subscribed. I deff want to see how this car goes.

 

You go.

 

I can't wait to see more

 

If you start doing some serious gripping you might want to reconsider going 5 lug. It is there for a reason. Just like your reinforced rear tower mounts. Under repetative G's the mounts started ripping and wheel studs start shearing on the regular integras with R-comps back when the Type-R was being R&D'ed


Nice project

 

sub'd

 

why go 5 lug though. just buy some stronger aftermarket studs. there are LOTS of 4 lug R's.

 

I know plenty of tracked 4 lug cars that never have a single issue. Look at alot of hondas that run NASA and SCCA.

I agree with OP. Why spend a ton of money on a 5 lug when you can get a 4 lug for cheaper and make the car brake better with upgrades.

 

Nice array of engines you listed there. $2011? Wow that's a tough budget. At least you can carry a lot of parts over from your Si. to you for using this car for what it was intended.

 

There is much more to it than just how many studs you are running. That is just one point.

I would much rather have the ITR components than the run of the mill honda econobox components. Esp if I was going to take racing seriously. Plus most of these "cheaper" brake upgrades you guys are describing are garbage after some real use. You get what you pay for, OP will see that if this is going to be a full time race car. That's my $.02

 

Ohhh my names chad slagg look at my integraaaa ooooooooooo



Ill be seeing this thing today... gotta take teh girl to work @ 6 so ill hit yous upz once i dropz her off and swings by.

 

Chad knows what he's doing.

 

I'm not doubting that at all. But from the sound of his plan it's just all backwards in my personal opinion. It sounds like he's trying to save money or take a cheap route--> but he's talking about a K motor build. For road racing, it's the opposite. A cheap well matched B-series motor/tranny build will def keep the budget down and allow him to put money where it really counts which is a proper chassis setup.

From the sound of things he's going to throw a flimsy Si/Ls/GSR suspension component setup with soft bushings, little hubs, small sway bars and non-beefy stress components. If thats not the case then he's hinting that he can out do the ITR components by using crappy parts like Cusco, Blox, Wilwood ect... That is what I am getting at.



Also, something ALOT of honda enthusiasts don;t know anything about is the ITR's unique handling characteristics that he will be voiding by trying to build an aftermarket suspension setup. I'll try to explain it because I know there are alot of hard parkers on this website:

The ITR is unique in the fact how the LSD, chassis, and suspension components ( LCA's, sway bars, endlinks, trailing arms, ect), alignment, all work together. They create a rear wheel steering effect that no other honda does. I have driven every honda worth driving hard and the ITR is the only one that does it. The way the rear "rotates" around to follow the front of the car as the LSD pulls it through a turn is a HUGE advantage I'd hate to see the OP miss out on by half assing his setup. The S2000, the NSX, none of them have this unique effect in a turn. The ITR was designed to do this from head to toe. Any weak point in the setup and the weight will not transfer correctly through a turn and you at best have a LS with suspension upgrades. Make use of the ITR chassis by complimenting it with the type of components it was designed to be using. I promise Blox and Cusco are not going to offer any improvments.

CHAD- If you don't believe what I've said about the feeling the ITR produces you can come to the next Driftwater event in Moyock, NC and I will let you drive my car on the track so you can feel it and know what an ITR is supposed to feel like before you decide what build you want to go with. It's only $10 to be my +1 and $100 to race all day long in your own car. No rules just a ton of track time.

 

No, seriously, he knows what he's doing. Among other things, he's been racing in Honda Challenge since...2000? Earlier than that? He was the EC H1 champ in '04 and '05, not sure what else.

While I'm sure you're trying to help, your advice is really misplaced in this event. You are also incorrect about a number of things you claim(sheared lugs because of 4-lug???), which is further reducing your credibility.

 

Actually, I do remember chatting with the HART guys back in the day and they were talking about how much stronger the ITR 5-lug setup was vs the GSR. They said they were breaking/shearing on occasion with the GSR when it would venture off the track, but with the ITR 5-lug they didn't have any of those problems as everything was significantly beefier.

There is a decent weight reduction with 4-lug, but that by itself should tell you something.

No one doubts Chad knows what he is doing, but for anyone else--4-lug is definitely weaker than 5. Take that for what you will.

 

i have hit 2 concrete walls with my si.....i have yet to break the hub or shear the studs...

4 lug....cuz i have 6 sets of volks in 4 lug.....i really don't want to have 6 sets of 5 lug volks sitting around for a car that will get driving 2-4 days a month (TRACK DUTY ONLY)....cuz with the 4 lug volks i can swap them to my daily drivers as well!!! woot woot...

K's....well i now have more k stuff than i do b....and if you know me....i have alot of b stuff....so K is the easy button!!!really easy button....only need header, and shift cables and box....soooo....yes k is easy button! i like the easy button!

 

I hate it! I hate it! This is awesome, I am jealous! Have fun with it.

 

He's not building a factory prefect restored type r, this is a track purpose car.