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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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I want to paint my ej6 Super Sonic Blue Pearl, am I wrong in thinking that I can just wet sand the entire car with 400 and 600 grit, tape off all the stuff I dont want to paint, bondo any blemishes, wet sand again, wash with mineral spirits, primer it and sand/wash it again and then begin painting with paint from anywhere that sells oem colors, and does oem paint need a clear coat (my assumption is yes)? And I just wet sand any runs or bubbles if there are any? Obviously I have no paint experience, so any feedback is appreciated... I searched and the process I just described was the most common I found.

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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ssbp is a sick color
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:35 AM
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I want to paint my ej6 Super Sonic Blue Pearl, am I wrong in thinking that I can just wet sand the entire car with 400 and 600 grit, tape off all the stuff I dont want to paint, bondo any blemishes, wet sand again, wash with mineral spirits, primer it and sand/wash it again and then begin painting with paint from anywhere that sells oem colors, and does oem paint need a clear coat (my assumption is yes)? And I just wet sand any runs or bubbles if there are any? Obviously I have no paint experience, so any feedback is appreciated... I searched and the process I just described was the most common I found.
Unless you want a show type glass finish you dont need to prime everything, plus you need to strip as much of the car out as you can, if you have never done anything like this before make notes of where parts go and label parts. Work your repairs and edges you are going to prime up to 320. Everything else I would prep with 1000. The colour you want to use will need a clear coat as will any met colours. Prep is always the key keep everything super clean
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Unless you want a show type glass finish you dont need to prime everything, plus you need to strip as much of the car out as you can, if you have never done anything like this before make notes of where parts go and label parts. Work your repairs and edges you are going to prime up to 320. Everything else I would prep with 1000. The colour you want to use will need a clear coat as will any met colours. Prep is always the key keep everything super clean
Thank you, so just wet sand to the metal and wash then paint?
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Well no, not really. don't sand down to the metal unless you are filling or pulling a dent. When you sand down to bare metal you remove the oem corrosion protecting. So if you don't have to, don't lol. Everything else just sand until you no longer see shinny spots.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Well no, not really. don't sand down to the metal unless you are filling or pulling a dent. When you sand down to bare metal you remove the oem corrosion protecting. So if you don't have to, don't lol. Everything else just sand until you no longer see shinny spots.
Oh ok thank you, I think I have Friday off so ill be posting pictures of the wetsanding assuming I wake up early enough
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if your not going to prime or seal everything, wetsand everything with no less that 600 grit.
If your doing bodywork(using bondo to fix a dent) do not wetsand the bondo. dry sand it with 180 and then spray primer over the bondo. at least 2-3 coats, then wetsand the primer.

You do need clear coat by they way.

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theres many upon many how to paint threads... click the search button.
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if your not going to prime or seal everything, wetsand everything with no less that 600 grit.
If your doing bodywork(using bondo to fix a dent) do not wetsand the bondo. dry sand it with 180 and then spray primer over the bondo. at least 2-3 coats, then wetsand the primer.

You do need clear coat by they way.

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thank you sir

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theres many upon many how to paint threads... click the search button.
Thanks for the least helpful post ever dude... You didnt even read my original post apparently... *see below genius

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Obviously I have no paint experience, so any feedback is appreciated... I searched and the process I just described was the most common I found.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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Gonna start at 530
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 01:38 AM
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bump want to see out come and good luck
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Originally Posted by lowerthanu
I want to paint my ej6 Super Sonic Blue Pearl, am I wrong in thinking that I can just wet sand the entire car with 400 and 600 grit, tape off all the stuff I dont want to paint, bondo any blemishes, wet sand again, wash with mineral spirits, primer it and sand/wash it again and then begin painting with paint from anywhere that sells oem colors, and does oem paint need a clear coat (my assumption is yes)? And I just wet sand any runs or bubbles if there are any? Obviously I have no paint experience, so any feedback is appreciated... I searched and the process I just described was the most common I found.
im pretty sure u would be good to go only suffing to 400 them i would wet scuff the whole car with red scotch brite pad an ajacks or any powder soap will do that was y cleaning the car an if u messed any heavy sand scratches. an all u really need to is scuff it till the sine is gone. are u planing on spraying the car ur self?
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im pretty sure u would be good to go only suffing to 400 them i would wet scuff the whole car with red scotch brite pad an ajacks or any powder soap will do that was y cleaning the car an if u messed any heavy sand scratches. an all u really need to is scuff it till the sine is gone. are u planing on spraying the car ur self?
if u do that, then the metallics and pearls will fall into the sand scratches. this will allow u to see the sand scratches.

clean it with an ammonia based glass cleaner or tar and grease remover. then sand it with no less than 600. wet or dry, but wet is better. scuff the edges with a gray scuff pad. before you paint it, clean it again. go paint!
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if u do that, then the metallics and pearls will fall into the sand scratches. this will allow u to see the sand scratches.

clean it with an ammonia based glass cleaner or tar and grease remover. then sand it with no less than 600. wet or dry, but wet is better. scuff the edges with a gray scuff pad. before you paint it, clean it again. go paint!
I don't know who told u that the metallic will fall in to the 400 sand scratches but I that's the highest grit I use on every thing. An I never ever have any problems. if i need to i will waste some base an activator to show u tomorrow. the only time i have ever seen anything like ur say is gonna happen is a buddy of mine used shitty primer on a car. and i just painted a civic fender an door to day that was granada black metallic no probblems.

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I don't know who told u that the metallic will fall in to the 400 sand scratches but I that's the highest grit I use on every thing. An I never ever have any problems. if i need to i will waste some base an activator to show u tomorrow. the only time i have ever seen anything like ur say is gonna happen is a buddy of mine used shitty primer on a car. and i just painted a civic fender an door to day that was granada black metallic no probblems.
No one told me. I paint cars for a living. You're right, sometimes your ok, sometimes your not. It would depend on the metallic in the paint. This is why I use 600 to be safe. Clearcoat and primer is A LOT easier to sand then base. Not to mention its super frustrating when you have to stop painting to let it dry enough to wetsand out sand scratches. Why bother. Its not like its a lot harder to sand with 600 then it is 400.

Do what you want bro. Just trying to save you unneeded headaches. Especially as a new painter. Hows the job coming along anyway?
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The only paint I would ever think about laying down on 400 would be straight colour, and not sanded by hand
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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The only paint I would ever think about laying down on 400 would be straight colour, and not sanded by hand
i do everything u just said u wouldnt do. lol. i dont know im done talking about in this thread were getting off subject after this post. im not tryign to come off like im right an ur wrong bc everyone has there own way. im my own defence i painted a door an a fender an i blocked it by hand with 400 on a durablock it was granada black metallic its black if there were any sand scratches u would see them. when u say not by hand what do u mean as in no block only ur hand or like a da?
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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im pretty sure u would be good to go only suffing to 400 them i would wet scuff the whole car with red scotch brite pad an ajacks or any powder soap will do that was y cleaning the car an if u messed any heavy sand scratches. an all u really need to is scuff it till the sine is gone. are u planing on spraying the car ur self?
Yea I'm using a paint gun and an air compressor and I'm making a makeshift room out of pvc pipe and painting tarp... don't hate its my only option... and it'll be legit

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if u do that, then the metallics and pearls will fall into the sand scratches. this will allow u to see the sand scratches.

clean it with an ammonia based glass cleaner or tar and grease remover. then sand it with no less than 600. wet or dry, but wet is better. scuff the edges with a gray scuff pad. before you paint it, clean it again. go paint!
Ended up sanded it with 400 bout to finish sandin tomorrow and buy some mineral spirits and use that.. but I work tomorrow too.. expect pics Thursday

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I don't know who told u that the metallic will fall in to the 400 sand scratches but I that's the highest grit I use on every thing. An I never ever have any problems. if i need to i will waste some base an activator to show u tomorrow. the only time i have ever seen anything like ur say is gonna happen is a buddy of mine used shitty primer on a car. and i just painted a civic fender an door to day that was granada black metallic no probblems.
Granada black metallic

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No one told me. I paint cars for a living. You're right, sometimes your ok, sometimes your not. It would depend on the metallic in the paint. This is why I use 600 to be safe. Clearcoat and primer is A LOT easier to sand then base. Not to mention its super frustrating when you have to stop painting to let it dry enough to wetsand out sand scratches. Why bother. Its not like its a lot harder to sand with 600 then it is 400.

Do what you want bro. Just trying to save you unneeded headaches. Especially as a new painter. Hows the job coming along anyway?
my bad got distracted this weekend just started today pics on thursday

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i do everything u just said u wouldnt do. lol. i dont know im done talking about in this thread were getting off subject after this post. im not tryign to come off like im right an ur wrong bc everyone has there own way. im my own defence i painted a door an a fender an i blocked it by hand with 400 on a durablock it was granada black metallic its black if there were any sand scratches u would see them. when u say not by hand what do u mean as in no block only ur hand or like a da?
I got this 3m hand block
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Haha my bad lagging on the pics... but ima start painting tomorrow, initial sandin is alll done
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 01:22 AM
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I remember when I was pricing paint ssbp came out a lot more expensive than other colors I was pricing. What brand of paint did you go with?

pics would be awesome!
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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I don't remember what brand but the paint shop right down the street mixed it for me. For one gallon it was $157. Haha I'm tryin to figure pictures out cuz they're all on my phone. Gonna do the last coat of primer right now, hopefully ill be painting the base coat tonight
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 01:26 AM
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Pics up tomorrow been done since last friday, just got back from laughlin paints done just gotta buff it out
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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First two pictures were after about an hour and a half of wetsanding with 400 grit.

The next three were after about two and a half hours of taping the car.

Picture 6 is the supplies.

Pictures 7-10 is after one coat of primer.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Picture 1 is after 1 coat of primer.

Pictures 2 and 3 are after three coats of primer and after wetsanding the primer with 600 grit.

Pictures 4-7 are after 1 coat of base.

Pictures 8-10 are after two coats of base.
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