B16 CRX Suspension Problems x2 Help me out

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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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Default B16 CRX Suspension Problems x2 Help me out

So I have a 91 si with a obd0 swap with a y1 trans. I am using the halfshaft and axles that came with it that are supposed to be 'b16 crx swap axles'....

Anyway, I have two problems

1- Something feels loose like the halfshaft or axles are wrong ... it feels like the middle of the car ..........which I believe leads to....
2- Something makes a loud clanking noise when I make turns at lights or stop signs (not just switching lanes for example)

So my question is what could be causing these two problems and should I just junk my halfshaft and axles cause I am reading everywhere I should just go with 90-91 da integra halfshaft and axles (from a manual cable trans of course)

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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 04:08 AM
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no one?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 04:22 AM
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my car clanks like its gonna drop an axle when i turn from a stop....

i have a lsd b16 trans.

are you sure you don't have lsd?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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my trans does have lsd. However, its not welded lsd like a drag car.... its oem. So that shouldnt cause the noise. Can an EF/CRX B series expert chime in
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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all the b series ef's ive done, ive used DA halfshaft and axles, not saying its gonna fix your problem, but its definitley somethin i would try.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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I am using the integra axles and halfshaft. I have no problems. I also bought them new as well.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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You guys removed the dust covers on the inside of the hubs and the outer part of the axles right?
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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You mean the rubber boots? Nah, I kept them all on. All of it fit right in nicely.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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No, I was talking about the metal rings
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Take the dust rings out if they are still on there. Also check to make sure everything is tight on the front end. Axles could be shot as well. They can make all kinds of noises when they go bad. Just go to an open parking lot and do figure 8s till you can feel where its coming from.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LightWeightChamp
all the b series ef's ive done, ive used DA halfshaft and axles
Yeah, i would go with a DA half shaft too

The oem Y1 tranny is ok, but the half shaft it uses is wack, i would never bother with it because of it's weird offset size.....any 90-93 usdm shaft would be better matched
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ninty7hatch
my trans does have lsd. However, its not welded lsd like a drag car.... its oem. So that shouldnt cause the noise. Can an EF/CRX B series expert chime in

i thought mine was oem also..... but it still makes noise?
i don't think its welded ether.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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Its not the LSD thats making the noise, thats all I am trying to say. Like Deetz said (I heard) that Y1 trans were wierd with the halfshaft and all, I just didnt know if I should use a DA or not. I am going to the junkyard this weekend and try to get 90-91 da halfshaft and axles
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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so I picked up a halfshaft from a 91 integra gs. I just bought refurbished axles for a 91 integra gs from advance auto parts but one is longer than the other. The axles I took out were the same length. My question is which axle is which? what side does the the longer axle go on and what side does the shorter axle go?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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the other one on top is the driver side axle ( that end goes into the mid shaft )
the one on the bottom is your passenger side axle( this end goes into the tranny )

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lunalink
the other one on top is the driver side axle ( that end goes into the mid shaft )
the one on the bottom is your passenger side axle( this end goes into the tranny )

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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the clunking is because Y1 trannys have clutch-type LSDs. the clunking you are hearing is the clutches in the LSD slipping. all you need to do is drain the trans fluid out, and refill it with Pennzoil Synchromesh. my Y1 did the same thing. ever since i used synchromesh it doesnt clunk anymore. you will still feel it slip but it wont be nearly as bad as before. i know it sounds crazy, but theyre supposed to do that. clutch type LSDs are much more aggressive and lock much quicker than helical type LSDs.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by B16Blake
the clunking is because Y1 trannys have clutch-type LSDs. the clunking you are hearing is the clutches in the LSD slipping. all you need to do is drain the trans fluid out, and refill it with Pennzoil Synchromesh. my Y1 did the same thing. ever since i used synchromesh it doesnt clunk anymore. you will still feel it slip but it wont be nearly as bad as before. i know it sounds crazy, but theyre supposed to do that. clutch type LSDs are much more aggressive and lock much quicker than helical type LSDs.
never heard of this....

can anyone confirm this?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ninty7hatch
never heard of this....

can anyone confirm this?
i can. because with clutch-type LSDs you have to use a friction modifier with your trans fluid or else the clutches in the LSD will not lock correctly. Pennzoil Synchromesh already has a friction modifier in it. i have tried many different types of trans fluid and the only one that has worked correctly and stopped the clunking is Pennzoil Synchromesh. i always used to use Castrol Syntec 5W40 in my D series non-LSD trans before. i tried using the same Castrol Syntec 5W40 with Trans-X friction modifier and it did nothing. then tried Klotz manual trans fluid which also had a friction modifier in it and still the differential clunked like crazy. then changed to Pennzoil Synchromesh and it doesnt clunk at all when its warmed up. it clunks once or twice right after startup before the trans actually warms up. i would recommend it to anybody using a clutch type LSD regardless of what kind of car its in.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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either spend $7 per quart on Pennzoil Synchromesh or $600 plus on a helical LSD from MFactory or Quaife
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:18 AM
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would you mix honda trans fluid with it or just use all syncromesh?
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:53 AM
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Haven't been on this forum in a while.....

This thread should help you out, I replied in that particular thread. Either one of the combinations I mentioned should help you out.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...light=additive
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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thanks for the help guys
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Default Re: B16 CRX Suspension Problems x2 Help me out

Originally Posted by ninty7hatch
would you mix honda trans fluid with it or just use all syncromesh?
no, dont mix them. Pennzoil Synchromesh is actually a manual transmission fluid. it just already has a friction modifier mixed in it. just put straight synchromesh in. thats all.
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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well I put the DA halfshaft and new DA axles in, pull out of my driveway....and same sound immediately happened. I just got done putting the syncromesh in and I am about to take it for a ride and will update later
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