I swaped my 97 itr. Into my 95 obd1 ls 4dr. Full swap, engine,tranny,ECU. I used a obd jumper, to hook up the 98 ITR ECU. With a stage 3, XRT clutch with 8.5LBS moly steel flywheel. BUT im not happy. I had read up a little on the clutch set up. Read that you lost torque and gained hp. But also read that thats bull. That you gain hp and torque. Due to less stress and less sentrifugal force. Made sence, but know the swapes done. But i dont feal the torque. I have to agree, feels like you lose torque, lots. Am i just triping, or whats up. I am running my ls headers, till my DC s come in. But dont think that would cause that much loss. When i leave in first gear, normal driving condition. If i just let out at 2000 rpm. It completly falls on its face. Strugels to about 3300 rpm then kicks in real hard. Kinda like when the distributer is going out. Is this due to the lightend flywheel. I have used the cluch before. XRT stage 3. But not the flywheel. The new clutch and flywheel are brand new. But i also was wondering if the ls fuel pump, may be the prob. Whats your advise. Help me out. Im geting a flash code of ether 23 or 113. 23 is fuel pump malfunction. 113 is intake air temp circuit to high. The long flash is tens right. It flashes once long then again pretty fast then three times real fast. Thats 23 right. Because 113 would be one long flash a puse then another long flash then three fast ones right, DAM i rought a book. !!!HELP!!!!!

 

First of all, try to deal with your run-on sentences please.

Just a shot in the dark, sounds like code 13, one long flash and then 3 short ones is 13.

Code 13 (memory here...) is map sensor, there is two 3pin connectors going to your TB, one is for the throttle position sensor, and one is map sensor.

These two plugs can be swapped, try reversing the plugs from what you have it now, the throttle position sensor is on the front of the throttle body (facing the front of the car) and the map sensor is on top of the tb (facing the sky). After this try startin the car, if it seems to run better, turn it off, unplug the ecu or neg battery terminal for a minute to let the ecu reset then go for a drive once it's up to temp.

Now with the tq less issue... yes the b series vtec motors will feel less a little less powerful down low than your old ls engine, do yourself a favor and get a proper header, ls header is major power killer.

Jason

 

No man it flashes once long. then a flash quickly after. then the three really fast flashes. Thats a 23 right. Five flashes total. I know where the map is. As for the engine. I have drove my car with the itr engine before. Just not with the light flywheel. And i notice a big differace. In the acceleration. From the stock flywheel to the light one. But i deff can tell its differant. Dont pick up the same.

 

No man it flashes once long. then a flash quickly after. then the three really fast flashes. Thats a 23 right. Five flashes total. I know where the map is. As for the engine. I have drove my car with the itr engine before. Just not with the light flywheel. And i notice a big differace. In the acceleration. From the stock flywheel to the light one. But i deff can tell its differant. Dont pick up the same.
Sal

 

Ok so let me get this straight...

You already had the swap done and were driving it around, then you had to do the clutch, and after installing lightweight flywheel and clutch your car is gutless below 3k? I had assumed by your post you had just swapped the whole drivetrain into your car...

Well I would say either way, the issue is not clutch and flywheel related, sort out the CEL's first,..

Could it be code 3 and 11?

3 is map sensor for sure, and 11 I have no idea... what did you unplug when you swapped the clutch... give some better and more clear details as to what was going on before this started.

 

Thought this was a type r forum...?

 

So where do i post my problem, would an ls fuel pump cause slugish acceleration.

 

No any honda oem fuel pump will suffice for your motor, there is almost no difference between a stock ITR pump and a civic cx pump.

You posted this in the type r forum. Sooo the wrong spot. There is a swap/hybrid forum somewhere just for you.

This forum is just for self righteous type r owners, so we can come together and talk about how much better we are than everyone else.

Jason

 

Exactly.

 

Think for a second. Why would Type R owners have any clue about your problem? We don't need to swap around motors, harnesses and change to LS fuel pumps, because everything was already in the car and working from the factory.

As it was suggested, try the hybrid forum. Perhaps a mod will stumble across this and move it for you.

 

I was waiting for you to chime in. I think you let the OP go off easy.

 

Pretty much. This forum is for people with inferiority complex. It's like the old farts driving camaro's. Now that they can afford their high school dream car, they think they're the ****.

 

Oh really? Nevermind that a lot of us on here are original owners.

And let's also ignore the fact that this is probably the worst place to post this question because--and I'll say it again--why would ITR owners have any damn clue about swaps into other cars, running other car's parts, etc?

Christ. Are people so stupid anymore that they don't think the hybrid forum would be a much better place to pose these questions?

"Yo, I haz an R part, so I'll post my ish in the R forum".

If I had a set of NSX wheels that I wanted to put on my 5-lug Accord, do you think the NSX forum would be the best place to ask about that too?

I was gonna let this one go, but your completely asinine post really needed to be corrected.

 

BAN LOCK

 

+1

 

What are you, the ITR forum rep? You speak for everyone here? Haha, well allow me to let you in on a secret. Just because you don't know squat about the Mechanics of your own motor, CEL's, or anything like that, it doesn't mean that everyone in this Forum is as oblivious as you. Read post #2. Maybe this question may have been better asked in the Hybrid forum, but for you to call someone stupid for posting a question about an ITR motor in the ITR Forum? I guess no one should ask technical questions here so we can leave your reserved space for you guys to do your little circle jerk and talk about what color underwear you're going to wear today?

And your little example there about the NSX wheels, is not even remotely close to being the same thing. It's absolutely astounding that you find a correlation between the two. But, I wouldn't expect anything more from you at this point
EDIT: Where are you in this thread? https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/took-trans-apart-what-do-inspect-upgrade-while-its-off-2786397/

Irony? I don't think you're in a place to call anyone stupid sir.

Do you do anything other than ride coattails?

 

What are you--the "I have an EG with ITR parts so I'm as cool as everyone else" rep?

And nowhere did I, or anyone else, say that we don't know anything about our own motors. However, when you take that motor and put it in another chassis with a cobbled wiring harness, random other Honda parts--then yeah--a lot of folks here won't have that experience. This is why the hybrid forum exists. Quit trying to justify the OP--the post is better suited in the other forum.

I called no one specifically stupid. I just said that some people are stupid for posting random ITR part questions in this forum. Frankly, I've been here for 10+ years and lately it has been getting quite annoying. It's like people don't think where to post their questions to get the best answers.

As far as technical questions--I think you'll find everyone loves those questions and we all wish more would happen. But, the question at hand belongs elsewhere, period.

Yes, it is the same. Just because it is a wheel, motor, etc doesn't mean that there isn't a forum better suited to the question. Pull your head out of your rear and realize this. Not every ITR part question (there are exceptions, however) should be asked here, especially when it is on a different application and in no way relates to the ITR chassis.


Care to elaborate a bit?

And FWIW, everyone immediately gets suspicious when someone comes in here asking about ITR motors in a different chassis. You *do* realize that a lot of those parts may be stolen, right?

 

*crickets*

You didn't have to, you were insinuating it. And yes, it is the same chassis. They are both DC's and it's an OBD1 motor in an OBD1 car using a jumper for an OBD2 ECU. The only "random" Honda part is the LS header. Did I miss something? You act like he's asking how to put a hydro b series in an EA chassis.

Again, all opinions.

No, it's not the same. You're talking about a Frankenstein setup with regards to an nsx wheel fitting on an Accord. In this case, it's a DC motor going in a DC chassis. Straight bolt in, wire vtec, and be done. He's having a mechanical issue, not a swap problem.

Again, they're both DC chassis. What difference does it make if the chassis is an ITR? NONE what so ever.

Not really sure what this has to do with the issue but you *do* realize that ITR's aren't the only cars that can be stolen, right? You might as well accuse everyone with swap.

 

We in this forum don't like to be bothered with issues that are non DC2 ITR chassis related. We don't agree with putting Type R parts on cars that are not ITR's, therefore, we're not going to help provide information on how someone can go about doing so. I agree with Todd, most of the time I do. And we both can speak on behalf of the majority of the users who frequent this forum that we like to keep it clean and ITR related.

This thread is exclusive to the Integra Type R chassis, and that is it. Same as the 92-00 Civic forum is exclusive to the EG/EK chassis, I wouldn't post in there how to put a D series in my ITR if I were to ever do so, I would simply use the hybrid forum.

I hope the analogy above correlates with you well enough to understand.

 

They are not the same chassis. The Integra Type R chassis and the 94-01 LS/RS/GS/SE/GS-R chassis are not the same as the '97-01 ITR chassis. Hence why there are two different forums; Acura Integra, and Acura Integra Type-R. All because both cars have the same body styles, doesn't mean they're the same at all. You really do need to pull your head out of your rear. Go post in the Acura Integra forum if it's all the same to you, because in here we all know wisely that they're not.

 

I don't give a **** lol. I do know this by the way and that's why I like to visit this forum sometimes. I enjoy the entertainment at work and this forum always delivers. It's like you guys are in your own world. Ahh the ego from owning a 13 year old honda. I bet you think your car can pull a girl too :D

Part of the reason why you don't like people putting ITR parts on non ITR cars is because you're suspicious of them being stolen. That makes you a hypocrite if you have ever bought anything used, right? Yeah, even ITR owners have stolen parts on their cars, they just dont know it.

Hahaha, Paul, let me tell you something. If you want to put a D series in your ITR, you can post it anywhere you want, even in the classifieds. And that's the incorrect analogy because, once again, the OP is not asking how to put an ITR motor in his chassis. Of course you would use the hybrid forum for your analogy. Is this concept hard for you to grasp?

facepalm.

You're cluttering with technicalities yet still missed my point. The OP can have the same problem in 97 ITR chassis. I'm not sure how else to say put it, but for some reason, you're not getting it. Oh well, don't drive into a ditch now. Later.

 

We are in our own world, well try to be. That is why we have a forum exclusive to our chassis. Most R owners own the car because of the performance aspect of it, not because it looks as great as it does. Sure some think it's the 'fastest' car ever made but there are always that few who ruin things for the true enthusiasts who don't care what others think and are in it for there love for it.

But we're not here debating with you why we don't like to discuss Type R pars on non Type R's or if some of us have stolen parts on our cars, that is not the point, nor the topic. But like you said your job sucks and you're bored so you're picking an argument with a group of people who don't back down and of course it's entertaining, but most of us won't feed in to it for too long. I'm just going to disregard the rest you said.

 

donut, obviously you feel how you feel. And obviously, you're on the outside with your opinion.

Your argument is stale and has been debated before. The only reason this thread has went on for so long is because there aren't a lot of active mods in here anymore.

Basically, a Type R motor "working" question in a non-ITR chassis belongs in the hybrid forum. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp, but apparently it is.

 

You should need a vin to log onto the itr sub forum. Seriously.

 

I agree 100%.