are there any threads dedicated with pictures to identify fake ITR parts such as the front/rear strut bars, shift *****, side skirts, rear valences etc.

I have searched and haven't came up with solid answers with pictures!

 

Good topic. Usually these parts look identical but are made to look as close to OEM as possible, so it can be hard to tell. It would be convienent to have a thread to source back to when questioning wheather a certain part is authentic.

 

thanks, exactly, I have been comparing strut bars, and they look almost identical, just want to get the exact info before I buy any ITR/FAKE ITR goodies

 

For a heads-up, Tegiwa on ebay is selling fake ITR strut bars and other fake junk.

 

hmmm come on r owners chime in... this could be a sticky

 

Great concept, all I can think of are decals, strut tower bars, emblems and maybe centercaps (sticker overlay)

 

I know some people out there could provide pics of fakes, and pics of the real deal off their own ITR

 

I know for a fact the optional rear valances have the number 08F03-ST7V-L stamped on the back of them and they also say Honda ST7V 7V12. I'll double check tomorrow I have the rear valances and optional side skirts in my garage.

 

Thanks for the input, I would love some of those rear valence/sides for my dc2... Audiko4 Maybe some pics might help!

 

So we're to assume that you are putting ITR parts on a normal DC2? Basically, anyone on this forum who has an ITR either:

1) Has OEM ITR parts already on their car

2) Goes direct to the dealer to buy OEM ITR parts

A few may be looking on ebay/classifieds for ITR parts, but they pretty much have a good idea what is OEM and what isn't.

I suggest that if you're looking for ITR parts, there are aftermarket options that are sometimes better, or parts are just as cheap at the local dealership.

Personally, I don't see the point in putting an ITR strut-tower bar on a non-ITR. And why sticky a thread like this? Most of us don't have to worry about buying fake parts because we already have the real ones on the car.

 

Considering the high theft rate on itr's, there are lots and lots of ITR rebuilds(including mine). That being said, somebody rebulding an ITR should know what's what, but you never know right?

 

How many fake ITR parts are there, anyways? Not a whole lot.

Front and rear STB's, but those are somewhat easy to tell. Otherwise, what other knockoff parts are being made? Maybe 00-01 shift-*****, but weight and appearance gives those away rather easily.

Meh, needless thread. OP is just trying to put ITR parts on his non-ITR, which is neither here nor there.

 

Tegiwa seems to be the Rota of fake parts. Go to there site and its amazing how many fake parts they have, anywhere from DC2 to Mugen to J's knock offs.

 

There are actually some very good replica STBs. And btw, ITR owners in the US buying rear ITR STB would not have the part on the car already. Not all OEM ITR parts came on the car, as you are well aware.

For others, with all the abused, molested, etc ITRs out there, if you want to return one to stock you may very well have to source parts. Said parts are being discontinued by Honda over time, so this will be an issue for all ITR owners in the future. You could always throw away that soap box Todd....

I do need to buy a 00-01 shift ****, it's even for my GS-R. My 97 already has Asspenny's that I "borrowed" from him.

 

Are there parts good? To me there is a difference between a fake and a replica/reproduction. Replicas/reproductions match the performance and specs of the original piece. Fake's are junk that look like the original, may be aged/etc to look like an original, but is just junk.

I personally have no issues with replicas/reproductions as long as you know it's not an original part. I wouldn't touch a fake though, but again, I don't see the two as the same, many others may see them as the same.

I mention this because you mentioned Rota's, which I have run with great success on my GS-R and have a set sitting in the garage for the ITR. I have no issues running them because I've personally put them through HELL (ask yack, will, craig, nick, etc) and have never had one fail. I've had Honda OEM wheels fail at lower levels of abuse. On the other hand, ADR's, SSP, etc I consider fakes because their quality is complete trash.

 

And fake rear STB's are just as easy to spot as fake front STB's. I have a real one (rear STB) on my car and I knen when buying it that it was a real one.


Again, we're talking what, maybe 2-3 parts that are knockoffs that "look" like real ITR parts? Otherwise, no one makes fake ITR airbox resonators, ITR rear swaybars, ITR seats, ITR steering wheels, ITR mufflers, etc. If you want to restore an ITR, it is easy to know what parts you are getting, unless you ebay your STB's.

The OP just wants to make sure he gets real STB's. That's all this post really amounts to. It has never been brought up because there no real issue going on. It's not like you buy some ITR rear LCAs and end up with "fake" ones.

You can call it a soap box, but please name (outside of STB's) where there is a real chance of getting a fake USDM ITR part.

Just get an 01-05 Civic accessory 5-speed ****. It's basically the same feel/look, but a whole lot cheaper.

 

I'm running Tegiwa's (under Sprint Wheels) NSX-R replicas and they're pretty good quality. Some paint imperfections (chipping, which is normal) but structurally sound. Now, if I had the money and the resources to find and buy 2 sets of NSX-R fronts then I would.

I haven't bought anything else from them.

 

It was just an analogy that I figured everyone would understand, don't read into anything beyond that.

 

Some of the current replicas are identical though, except for the sticker in most cases (a seller looking to rip someone off would just remove the sticker). They are extruded aluminum, with the same internal design, etc.. so they aren't always as easy to spot as they used to be (when all of them were completely hollow, etc).

Wheels, *****, strut bars for OEM parts that I've seen around, there may be more, I've never looked honestly. I'd agree that it's not extensive though. The fake, and replica, market for aftermarket parts would be a more useful thread probably. BTW isn't the ITR steering wheel the same as a GS-Rs? I've never noticed a difference. (in the US market at least).

If I were the OP, I'd get a quality replica. It'll do the same thing (which I've never noticed a difference with or without them, but.. ).

The soap box comment was because it served no actual purpose to point out that the parts weren't for an ITR, except to point out that in your opinion he shouldn't be posting here anyways. What he was installing the part on really has no link to him driving an ITR or not, as not all ITRs have their original parts by this time anyways.

Thanks for the tip. I'll have to check it out when I feel like wasting some cash. I don't care about the look (if anything I'd prefer a black **** instead of silver) but do like the weighting and feel of the ****, so as long as it's the same there, it'd work for me. I might even buy two and give craig's shiftknob back

 

I few years back there was that thread about fake itr cams from ebay. Maybe someone has a link to it...

 

Yeah, pretty soon acura will start discontinuing parts, this is for dc2 owners to restore there theft project caR etc. Not for people to come in here to buy parts for their civic...

 

This thread is a good idea, idk why todd is shooting it down... Not every R owner knows exactly whats authentic and whats a replica or fake

 

The first parts to go will be specific items like the ITR floormats, ITR STB's and other such ITR specific parts that non-ITR owners seem to want to buy. Otherwise, I have a feeling that the normal wear and odd parts will be around for a long while.

Heck, I can still buy obsecure parts for my 91 Si hatchback. Chances are that with as many B-series cars and Integras made from 94-01, parts will still be around for many years to come.

And again, I don't see "fake" parts playing any role in this.

 

Yes, I may not drive an R, because I really can't find one that I want right now, but I got the closest thing I could to an R, do you have to own an R to be an R enthusiast? no... I am here because enjoy everything about the R, I drive a 100% stock 00 GSR with 91k miles. Does that make me a bad person because I am interested in not supporting the black market of ITR replicas and fakes?

 

Because there seem to be a grand total of 2 fake OEM ITR parts being made right now that are somewhat difficult to tell from the originals.

Do we really need another thread on how to tell the two STB's apart?

What ITR parts, specifically, are you going to put on your GSR? Unless they are STB's, then you have nothing to worry about. And FWIW, bypass the OEM ITR STB and get the Neuspeed 4-point. You'll actually notice a performance difference with that piece.