THIS SEASON IS THE LAST FOR THE 3PIECE FRONTS...OK GUYS THIS IS JUST MY OPINION..........

Now that Exospeed came out with that sick coupe for the streets..Being that the reason behind the bann on 3 peice front for next year is to establish the diff. between street and drag
Hopefully now the rules will remain the same as this year being that this is a damn good looking street car ...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/new-look-ahobbs-exospeed-street-race-edition-2785708/ Just want to know what you guys think about it....

 

I am missing the point of your post, but personally I think wide 3pc fronts should have never been allowed in a street class to begin with.

 

if they are banning this, they need to BAN ANYTHING THAT IS NOT STOCK FOR THE BODY. ANY CF FENDERS, ANY Z3 FENDERS (LOL), ANYTHING.

Its STUPID to ban a "body kit" for the lack of a better over all word.

Make your own fender flares? FORGET ABOUT IT?

Putting a front lip to lower your ground clearance?....FORGET ABOUT IT!

 

point of my post first is not to get into a pissing match but more to get a feedback on the 3piece ban next season being that lots of cars use them or want to use them.....also true street class is a joing of two clases one being SFWD which did allow it...so thats my point
If this tread gets to crazy hopefully a moderator would just close it...just trying to keep the fronts in the class thats it...nothing more

 

Thats STUPID. save the bans for things that REALLY MAKE IT NOT STREETABLE. One piece front ends, hood exit exhaust....

One piece front ends require stupid custom mounting hardware to bolt up, all sorts of custom dzus fasteners...

Exospeed front ends require ALL FACTORY Mounting locations, its bolts up stock...it does nothing but add safety to your car, all these slammed cars that are riding fender lips on top of the damn fender...ive seen those cars pop a tire at the end of the track when braking and go JERKING over in a different direction. It doesn't reduce ANY streetability. You are telling me a Supra in a street class that has a wide body kit is going to be banned?....You are telling me that an NSX with molded in wide body addons will be banned? You are telling me that any RWD car that has Widened rear end would be banned? NO THEY WONT...so whats the difference? You are FWD so you cant do ANY styling to YOUR street car?

 

also with that front you have to run outlaw and honestly i cant keep up or afford to keep up with that class.....

 

To be honest. I think that they made the rule hoping to push the cars that run the fronts into O/S next year. If the rule stays for next year I'll put a stock front on my car for next year.


The 3 peice fronts are safer then stock but how cares about that....

 

exactly. Who cares?

Its sad that adding girth to your car makes it illegal in a class. If you are going to ban the front ends, BAN THE SLICKS TOO, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT STREET HARDWARE.

 

i will have no choice but to either......i was just trying to see how many races would have liked to keep it ,that it....i just like how the red coupe still looks street even with the front....i have talked to John Brown personally so i am not trying to start no S*** ...he is good people and doing alot for the racers down here...so its about just getting a pole or census of the races prefernce

 

That rule sucks ***! I love my front, but if the rule sticks, back to oem........

 

I am not arguing with anyone, I gave my opinion that they shouldn't be allowed in the first place, but I think its ignorant to come out a few years later and ban them after everyone bought one. I don't know anyone with a properly setup front suspension cutting tires on 24.5 on the brakes so I don't see the relevance... I couldn't put 2 fingers between my slicks and my fender and I never cut into the tire on the brakes and I ran a soft GC setup so IDK.

Allow it or ban it, it really makes no difference when everybody's opinion on what exactly defines a street car is different.... But IMO open dp's and hood exit exhaust's are so not what a "street car" is its sad, but w/e.

 

technically in my opinion i think thebann is dumb, put restrictions on **** that matters like turbo sizes,wheelie bars,racegas..things that give unfair advantages..a 3 piece front is 95% for saftey and maybe a tiny little bit for mph..other than that its for looks..my car is classed in t/s and i am looking into a 3 piece and paint job now that its done..but now im waiting..

 

THERE IS NO HARD FEELING ..JUST RACERS SPEAKING THERE MIND WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS TREAD.....THATS MY MAIN POINT SO MANY HAVE THEM ALREADY....

 

As a manufacturer of a front end kit, I have expressed my feelings to NSCRA through email several weeks ago when the rule came out. I was respectful of their decision and what ever they say as final, I will have to respect that. I had hoped that my email would have been replied to as a sign of acknowledgment that they listened to what I said and taken my opinions into consideration.

I basically stated the safety and aesthetic issue of the front end. There was never a claim that it would be used as a performance enhancing device(PED) to enable certain race cars to have an advantage over other competitors. I do understand that if the kit did look like it was outrageous looking and went beyond the look of being streetable, then I would accept that and say that was its purpose. But the front end is very subtle and follows the lines of the body well enough that most people wouldn't even know that there are a wider front fenders.

As you can see on Hobbs' civic that you can't even tell there is one on there. This is a true example of a STREET CAR. This is daily driven around town, back and forth to work, 60 mile round trip to car meets, etc. The purpose of this car was to accomplish something that a TRUE STREET car can have the best of both worlds. A real built performance vehicle that looks and feels like a race car but can be used on the streets by the average guy. If this car isnt what TRUE STREET is built for, then what is it?

 

there are plenty of people without properly set suspension that run the street classes because the street class is technically for people who don't have a 25+ thousand dollar civic to race and not ever drive it.

Wil Said it!

 

From the stock front to jojo you lose about 2mph from the testing ive seen.

 

I will not take off my front end. My car is a street car. I run 93oct in it for the street and q for the track. I will run a high 10 on pump and low 10, high 9 on q. I passed inspection just a couple weeks ago. If I can't race at these events I guess I won't be there. All I did is put a "body kit" on. Just as in the late 90's I had a wingswest "body kit". Same thing just looks nicer with a diff effect.

There are a small few who can run the outlaw class and compete, "finacially". I built what I could afford. The squeeze will eventually wash the class out just as the other class is.
I persnally think it's time for some graduations to take place and sone move up a level.

Matt- I don't have 25k in it lol

 

Well said......

 

Those front ends are nice and do serve a purpose. The true street class now may as well

be outlaw being that none of those cars see accual miles on the road or even have

exhaust, inspection sticker, street tires, and ECT. And to the few of you guys that accually

do have a legitimate street car more props to you! All I see is alot of shops with cars in

these classes and dominating them with no real chance for a DIY mechanic doing this on

the side to compete. This is supposed to be an entry level heads up import drag racing

class and now if your not making 700+ you may as well not take your **** out of the

garage. Hood exit exhuast's or open dp isn't inspectable. IT WILL FAIL! Race gas is one

thing, it helps protect your investment. I say a street car has street tires, full exhaust with

muffler (converter isn't nessesary), and full interior minus what needs to come out for cage

and other safety equipment. I don't care if the class slows down and people bitch about

it, that is what the outlaw and pro cars are for!

Thanks

 

X2

 

T1 did it with "boostismycrack's" car jojo frt and his car is gangsta too. They have another guy in the shop with a street exospeed front. He drives it to work also And that guy is a autocross car. I bet they didn't ban him

 

Oh and ahobbs. Your car is gorgeous! Very inspiring to get mine done. And its a REAL STREET CAR!!! Hope to see some videos and numbers soon!

 

HOBBS/EXOSPEED THE CAR IS SICK.....GREAT WORK ON IT........TRUE STREET CAR

 

The "real street car" guys should make a statement..Go run the 1st NE NSCRA event on DR tires and full exhaust , bring your registration and insurance cards.

I'd love to see how many asses on the stands end up on toilets when that class is up.

 

Like someone else stated, if they are to ban these front ends, they need to ban all aftermarket body parts, race gas, slicks etc. It is ridiculous to say these are not street legal. Actually a vehicle with the tires out past the fender is illegal by most state statutes. Leaded race gas is not street legal, non DOT tires are not street legal. Ban them all, or none. enough is enough on the race sanctions trying to stop the advancement of the sport, and hurting the (very little) aftermarket support we have