I need some opinons on how to build a H22 Vtec monster that runs on 91 octane. Please describe how you would build one. Come on guys give me some ideas!

 

As in N/A or FI?

 

really not sure witch way i want to go. so just ideas with both

 

Any way u go ur lookin to spend some cash. F/I is cool bc essentially its cheap power however w/h series frm sleeves not being boost freindly in order to run high boost applications ur gonna need to resleeve the block....not cheap. Then theres N/A. Any one will back me in saying an N/A motor is a monster however its not cheap. In any way. I personally am gonna be runnin a 75 shot (wet) thru my h22a. Nitrous seems to be the best bang for ur buck. As well as boost is constant wear n tear on a motor. N/A isnt really but w/nitrous ur only gettin the wear in bursts when u hit that button. PLus it doesnt mess up ur gas mileage either. just my .02

 

^He's absolutely right. You're going to have to resleeve your block in order to run forged internals because of the FRM sleeves, so it'll be hella expensive. For a N/A build, there are alot of things to think about, as in(but not limited to): Oversized bore, Compression ratio, valve train, cams, etc. The list goes on. It's really about how much you want to spend. Supercharging might be what you should be looking into. Jackson Racing makes an excellent kit for H22 applications.

 

Thanks for the feedback guys. well then how would u build one of these moters. money is really not a problem bc this is goin to be a project car and theres really no time restraint. so how would u guys build a H22?

 

My H22 N/A Build:

JDM H22 Type S Block (Closed Deck, Full Race Girdle)
H22 VTEC head
Fully Serviced Crank (I do this to any build, Plugged, cut, Balanced, polished)
Race Bearings
Mahle Gold Series Pro High Compression Pistons (12.5:1)
Eagle Rods
Skunk2 Pro 2 Camshafts
Cam Gears
Titanium Valves
Dual Valve Springs
Euro R Intake Manifold w/throttle body
AEM Cold Air Intake Manifold
Custom Fuel Rail
RDX Fuel Injectors
225Lph Fuel Pump
10lb Flywheel
Stage III Clutch
H-to-B Adapter Plate w/ Type R Transmission
Hondata S300
Tuned By Gabe-O

This is my all motor build currently sitting inside of my 94 Civic Hatchback



THis is my Turbo Set up:

JDM H22 Type S Block
Darton Sleeves
Block Guard
Fully Serviced Crankshaft (Plugged, balanced, ground -if needed, mine needed it so I did it)
JE Low Compressions Pistons
Eagle H-Beam Connecting rods
Brian Crower Stage 2 Turbo Camshafts(305's, personally I find 306's unstreetable)
Accomidating Adjustable Cam Gears
Brian Crower Titanium Valves
BC Dual Valve Springs
Custom Race Spec Rocker Arms (Got them from a local machine shop, apparently the company builds racing spec rocker arms to spec, I can find the # and info u truly need them, I've been nothing short of satisfied).
3 angle valve job
Skunk2 Turbo Intake Manifold
Blox Racing 74mm Throttle Body
AEM Cold Air Intake
1000cc Fuel Injectors
AEM High Flow Fuel Rail
225lph Fuel Pump
Greddy Full Stage II Turbo Kit (There are cheaper options, explore them, took me 5 months to save up for this kit alone but, I have a T70 and a Gt35, which I use depends on what I plan to be doing but for the numbers you're trying to push go for the biggest option, comes with front mount intercooler, all the needed piping.)
Mishimoto Dual Core Radiator Cooling system
D-Speed Custom Deep Freeze System (Basically a Jimmy-Rigged contraption Dan put on my intercooler to lower the charge temperature of the air passing through it, for the most part it works like a charge, how much power it's actually giving me over it not being there, couldn't tell u but since it's on there and he's my buddy i'm advertising it. All it is a freon-injection system any one can build it but be warned it's a bit heavier then someone would like, everything come to a lofty 40-55lbs.
Custom Exaust Manifold and system w/3" downpipe.
Hondata S300
Tuned By Gabe-O
H2b Adapter Plate
Type R Transmission
Stage 5 Clutch
10lb Flywheel

This is another H-Set up I have sitting in my 93 Civic Coupe.

BOTH are expensive, the N/A build was good for well over 230whp on it's tune, considering the money I spent I was let down, but my Turbo build is good for well over 600, but took me 2 years to build. Go turbo, aim low, and you'll hit 300whp like it's a cake walk.

 

If you need any parts to get u on your way lemmie know, I have a JDM H22 Type S Short Block, Type S Pistons, Vtec Head, Type S Camshafts and a 5sp Manual Transmission all for sale so holla at me man. I've got some H22a's hanging around to, don't know what condition their in though.

 

Yea man. How much for everything?

 

Hmm...You got $900 u can take ALL of it. Could easily get north of $1500 for it but i'm not pressed for H22 Parts, trust me I can walk out side blind folded and Trip on an Type S block and bust my head open on an h22a. You'd be doing me a favor.

 

This is completely untrue!

the FRM sleeves are very strong...stronger than any b series sleeve. The weak points are the ring lands and rod bolts. Mahle pistons designs a forged piston that will work with the frm sleeves. Show me three pictures of cracked or broken h series sleeves....you wont be able to do it. s2k's use the same sleeves and there are guys making 500whp on stock bottom ends.

set a power goal then go get it. if you want 400whp...n/a will not be an affordable option. If you want 230-250 you can get there fairly easily with n/a.

 

Just to chime in..

He is correct in saying the ringlands are the weak points, and yes frm sleeves are dumb stronger then any b series stock sleeves.

400 HP, n/a Nigh impossible, to expensive and to pull it off it wouldn't even be an h22 anymore cuz you'd have to bore the hell out it, and i can only ikagine the costs we are looking at to pull it off, hell i dropped 5k or so into my n/a jdm h22 type s and im. Only seeing 235-240 to the wheels.

Set the goals low..boost it..youll be pleased.