so ive been looking around for a good hour or so & ive got a couple questions.

for the rear disk conversion ive been read i need parts from a 90-93 DA
so the 3 door hatch is automaticly good but coupes and sedans where DA's also.
not untill they added a d18 in 91 and created a d17 in 92 for the GSR.

so the 89.5's are 90' the 90 are obvliously 90's and any of those will work
but if it is a 91-93 then i need one with a motor that is a b16 or smaller!
HOW DO I CHECK THIS?? ( hood sticker might be missing in junkyard) , block stamp???

ok so im confused as to which one would be Prefered to use on my EF hatchback. would the sedan cables be to long? coupe 2 door hatch 4 door hatch? all are DA's correct??

parts needed are?
Trailing Arms and the brakes themselves complete
& the proportioning valve from a DA

NEXT QUESTION.
all PV's the same? is this best one to use?



now ive head great debate over the MC & BB

if i stay stock will the pedal be floppy and unresponcive unless at high force?
if i get one do i go with the 4040 out of the DA and pick up the brake booster wile im at it or do i go and find a 90 or 91 civic EX and pick up the MC & BB from it instead?
what is the 90-91 MC anyway 3540 or 3040/??
ive heard 3040 is closest to correct on stock 91efhatch front disc with the rears from the 90-93 DA.

have i got all this correct?

cuz ive been up all night and in about an hour and a half i can start to make this happen.


heard bits about a front knuckle or even a spindel? as of right now my manual rack n pinion is shot to crap wile my front drivers tire camber is out of wack and the rest of the tires sit nice. i think i need new bushings and lower control arms anyway so i might wanna put off on all of the lil fancy details for now. but insight on what i would need is welcomed.

im doing brakes then front suspension then im getting new tires and hopefully itll be smooth driving.,, minus the motor.

also, my car didnt come factory withthe motor thats in it so when they hooked up the MPFI to a d15b2 they used a pm6 ecu. isnt a d15b2 use a pm5 or was this because it didnt have mpfi.

reguardless, the wiring is horable.
NO cigarette lighter
NO caution lights
blinkers work unless i turn right then both fronts blink like in caution mode, but dash says turning right and rear light is right only. this is the only setting messed up.

ive got the old injector wiring still patched in tucked under the battery
and my headlights are wacked. there is this huge mess of tape right behind the drivers headlight where the wheelwell starts to be scene fron under the hood.

i need a wiring diagram or another copy if the correct pm6 swap wiring. pretty talented when it comes to wiring i just havnt had the time to really tackle this one. but i need my lights working correctly i cant afford the tickets.


thank you.

 

looks like u need to do some more research buddy lol

 

DA's DC's EG's with rear disks will bolt up. USe your stock LCA's and the adjusters that bolt up closer to the front of the car. If you can find a CRX with rear disks at the junk i would get those as well. use the E-brake cables from a DA. CRX ones may fit as well. good luck!

 

crx e brake cables are too short for hatches u gotta use da coupe e brake cables

 

i know crx and da trailing arms will bolt up.. i dont think motor size has anything to do with the rear discs?
crx e brakee cables are too short though.. you have to get those from an integra

 

LOL of course motor size has nothing to do with rear disc.its the brake booster and prop valve

 

ok other than what i already know.

the 91-93 1.7 or 1.8 motor is on the intergra DB chasis so i kno those will not work.

but i was more wondering about the ebrake cable but i think that has been answered

there is a DA sedan coupe 4 door hatch and 2 door hatch i want the CORRECT cable.
is the sedan to long is the 3 door hatch to short? or do i need to find a COUPE ebrake only?

also

the MC is pretty cheap but i cant imagine that the DA Power Booster aka Brake Booster is gonna bolt up correctly or cost me less than $200

ive heard these parts are like $150 for everything and ive checked 3 junkyards for the DA and its not available.

located in central florida and still searching for parts.

Main concern is Without MC & BB will the swap be notacably better braking or will it just look cool

cuz lookin cool dont mean squat to me. i wanna do the swap for functionality and safty.

 

Whats wrong with what you have now? And ANY DA trailing arms will fit, the year doesn't at all. All DA's came with with either the 1.8 or the 1.7, doesn't matter because the trailing arms are the same. As for the e-brake cable, Im sure anything will work from the DA chassis, but I used the DA hatch e-brake cable.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the DA only come in a sedan and hatch? Didn't know there were coupes as well?

 

the Da didnt come with a 1.7. or 1.8 those where the DB's the DA's mostly came with a 1.6.
i kno this for fact.

if the hatch cable fits im happy about that.

they made a 4 door hatch first which failed but yes there was a coupe 2 door hatch 4 door hatch and sedan.

i jsut want to make sure the cables fit.

ill probably just use a hatch or coupe ebrake

any insight on the PV, DC or BB?

 

Maybe you need to do some more research. Ive owned 2 DA's. Both were DA9's and they both came stock with a 1.8L The DB chassis I believe came with the 1.7L's

I think you're thinking of the older integras with the d16 in them. You got your years mixed up.

 

well u could be right but the info i was looking at says the 1.8 was created in 92 for the gsr and those parts wouldnt work

also heard the 1.7's are DB chasis.

i guess i could be wrong but it wasnt looking that way when i asked around to the junkyards and did research.


reguardless


PV, MC & BB? anyone???

 

Well the 90-93 integras had LS B18A1s or GSR B17A1, the newer ones 94+ came with a LS B18B1 or the B18C1 or C5 which was the gsr.

But I do not know the answer to the PV MC or BB question.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Integra

After reading that, we were both right, but thinking about different things. I didnt know the chassis code for the first gen integras and thats what you were talking about.

Good luck on your search for the answer, ill look and see what I can come up with.

 

first gen integra's were AV1's.
you can use any trailing arms from the 90-01 integras, just make sure you get the prop valve as well.
im not totally sure, but the sedan and hatch e-brake cables may be the same.[look at acura to see for sure.]
the 90-93 inbtegras came with a 1.7[gsr] or a 1.8[ls/gs/rs]
the 94-01's came with a 1.8[gs/ls/rs] non-vtec, or a different 1.8[gs-r/type-r]vtec, all the same except type-r was 5 lug.

 

there is all sorts of retarded info on the net so who knows.

bump for answers about the MC & BB still wondering about this.

and also why do people upgrade the front spindle and or bushing?

 

all fits on the civic.^^

 

all rear disc brakes from any 90-01 integra or 90-00 civic are EXACTLY THE SAME excluding the ITR.

you will need parking brake cables from a 90-93 2 door integra for best fitment

if you are not upgrading your front brakes at all, I would use a crx si master cylinder and proportioning valve because you will essentially have crx si brakes. if you do upgrade the front brakes to 90-93 integra or 90-91 civic ex (both the same size) then you should use the 90-93 integra 40/40 proportioning valve and master cylinder.

 

alright a little better info. thank you

what should i change in the front? and if i get the MC from the DA does it bolt right up to the old power booster or do i need a new ones cuz i heard the bolt holes dont line up so if i get the MC i need the BB from the same car aswell.

is this true.?

 

bump

still clueless about the mc and bb due to bolt up issues.

IS THIS **** NEEDED/

 

YES! you need both BB and MC and the bolt pattern doesnt change swaping them would be easy

and stop bumping your thread its useless.

 

u answered yes to two questions that could not be the same answer

learn to read,. then write

 

uumm.. look @ it again

 

oh an edit i see.

well thank you for the into on the MC and BB but also in question is the front suspension parts?

i need a front knuckle? or something??

 

hmm, well I busted a tire and snapped of another lug off the front so now im 2 luggin it.


im fixing the brakes this week so im guessing its
90-91 integra or 90-93 integra (everything from LCA out?)

ive been told this is going to raise my car back up. so im going to get the newest front brakes im guessign that is 99-00 front knuckles and out?

 

bumpidootle

 

A 15/16 90 EX m/c bolts up to the stock Civic Booster. Replacing the booster can be a PITA.

Any Trailing arm with disc brakes will fit. The only difference is that the ITR has 5 lugs. Civics use smaller bushings but that's irrelevant, either one works.

E-brake cable from CRX is too short for hatch and I've heard that 4-door Integra is too long, 2-door Integra is just right. Yes, you must use cables for disc brakes, the drum cables won't work.

Use a 4040 prop valve.