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Old May 23, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Default Stock cat = shitty?

Question..

Would it be possible for a stock cat to cause enough back pressure to create detention??
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Old May 23, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

no.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

Originally Posted by kyden
no.
A clogged cat could be the culprit.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

Originally Posted by kyden
no.
Car to enlighten, how a motor that was running fine on a 3'' exhaust, with no cat just str8 pipe..
And then goes to a car that has a cat, starts to knock before vtec..?
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Old May 23, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

Did you tune after putting on the cat?

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Old May 23, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fungus mungus
Did you tune after putting on the cat?

fm
Um, ya, i just got in from tuning..

clutch took a crap on me, but thats no big deal.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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I dig the attitude towards everyone posting op.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
What I've seen with tuning my engines is that a restriction in the exhaust usually makes it run rich. Running rich would make it less likely to detonate. So I don't see how plugging up the exhaust would make it detonate unless you did something to the tune to make it run lean or advance the ignition timing too much.

Post up the air/fuel datalog and the timing maps with general engine setup and that would be useful for determining why you're detonating.
Exactly, going back to a stock cat will cause the motor to run rich. Running rich can lead to higher EGT's which can lead to pre-ignition.
OP, find another tuner/mechanic if yours couldn't figure that out.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
Your exhaust valves would have to be smoking hot (extended periods of WOT) to get det on a pig rich mixtures but I guess it's possible.
True, who knows the full story, it seems like something is always going wrong with this guy's build. I have no idea why he would claim an action clutch stage 6 would only last 6-8 months, and why a CC stage 2 is not adequate for his setup.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

The back pressure could cause hot exhaust gases to not get purged from the combustion chamber on overlap which could increase combustion chamber temps. You really should check back pressure, though. If it's just a few psi then it is not likely causing it. Stock cats usually flow decent up to a point. The restriction is usually going to show up at higher loads/rpm.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

Thats all i needed to know.. thx you.. just double checking.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Stock cat = shitty?

i lost like 10-12 hp when i put a cat on my car...definetly has an effect on back pressure and cam overlap...
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