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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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well i can tell you all are gonna start hating me for all my posts

anyway
my friend has a 94 accord with a f22 in it and this weekend is picking up a h22 swap. and in 3weeks he will have an f22 for sale. he said ic ould have the motor, trans, wiring, and ecu for 200bones.

1-i didnt see anything about an f22 in an eg hatch in the FAQ. is it not do able? or just not a common swap?
2-if it is possible, are there custom mounts needed?
or is it an easy drop in and drive swap?
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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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don't even try to do the swap. not worth it.
waste of time and work
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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Default Re: not in FAQ: f22 swap?

Originally Posted by Ruben19
don't even try to do the swap. not worth it.
waste of time and work
how come?
just wondering
cause i though just about anything is better than a d15b7....
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Old May 20, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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Fairly easy swap. Some potential. Do-able amount of aftermarket support. Requires custom mods to the chassis. Your getting most of it for free so if you really want to go through with it than go ahead. But just to let you know the guys that are running the faster f series mounted their motor on to a b series tranny. f22b isnt new but as soon as the bisi-boom went off people started getting more serious with them. But I'm pretty sure someone will say get a f22a motor instead. Its the same as a h22 swap.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Fairly easy swap. Some potential. Do-able amount of aftermarket support. Requires custom mods to the chassis. Your getting most of it for free so if you really want to go through with it than go ahead. But just to let you know the guys that are running the faster f series mounted their motor on to a b series tranny. f22b isnt new but as soon as the bisi-boom went off people started getting more serious with them. But I'm pretty sure someone will say get a f22a motor instead. Its the same as a h22 swap.
thanks! good to know

what kind of chassis mods are needed? welding?
or just custom mounts?
anyone have a link to a swap thread saved?
i found nothing so far.

im not looking to build a super quick car. the d15 is just slow as ***** and i'd like a tad more get up, and its a great deal for only $200.
but this is my daily, so i'd need her to be reliable.
whats reliability like d15 vs f22?
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Old May 20, 2010 | 01:38 AM
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Default Re: not in FAQ: f22 swap?

Originally Posted by rocklizzard91
thanks! good to know

what kind of chassis mods are needed? welding?
or just custom mounts?
anyone have a link to a swap thread saved?
i found nothing so far.

im not looking to build a super quick car. the d15 is just slow as ***** and i'd like a tad more get up, and its a great deal for only $200.
but this is my daily, so i'd need her to be reliable.
whats reliability like d15 vs f22?
stock is reliable like stock. Look up h22a eg swap. the f22b was built for low end torque so thats what youll get. Its not a performance motor out of the box. If your looking for more get up I'd recommend a gsr swap. It has better low end than the type r for daily and the head wasnt factory ported so it gives you more options. But if your on a budget you can go with a mildly built d16z6.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 05:20 AM
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Default Re: not in FAQ: f22 swap?

like the other guys have said, this is do-able and similar to an H-series swap and H2B swap.

in a DD though... realize you won't have room for A/C or P/S. you must use custom axles, a mount kit, custom shifter install and you're hood may not clear without some spacing and/or cutting.

and i'm a firm believer that a $200 motor is still a $200 motor... there are exceptions but you're probably looking at a motor that needs a rebuild. bare minimum- T-belt kit, rear main seal, plugs, wires...

with that said, you'll have a $200 motor with several hundred more getting it in the car and in good shape, no A/C no P/S

look into something like an low-mileage LS swap with a set of cams and a tune.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 05:22 AM
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Default Re: not in FAQ: f22 swap?

From what I've heard, it's more or less the same procedure as an H22 swap, as far as the mounts, linkage, and etc.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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hmmm very good info going on here. i like it.

as for power steering and ac, i have neither, so no worries.

it keeps coming up that mounts will be needed.
is it a mount in production that i can just order?
or does it need to be fabbed up?
same witht he axles and shifter that were mentioned
i need to make sure no welding or anyhting needs to be done, as i cant weld
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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Default Re: not in FAQ: f22 swap?

Originally Posted by rocklizzard91
as for power steering and ac, i have neither, so no worries.

it keeps coming up that mounts will be needed.
is it a mount in production that i can just order?
you must live somewhere cool and/or dry... A/C is not optional in a daily driver here in SC, haha.

as far as i'm aware you can treat this like an H22 swap described in this thread.
H22>>civic FAQ

there may be some small details that are different, but it should serve as a fairly good guide.

Last edited by hondamark35; May 20, 2010 at 08:42 AM.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hondamark35
you must live somewhere cool and/or dry... A/C is not optional in a daily driver here in SC, haha.

as far as i'm aware you can treat this like an H22 swap described in this thread.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650329

there may be some small details that are different, but it should serve as a fairly good guide.
that link is a bad link.
says page cannot be displayed when i click on it

and i live in WA, so its not really needed.
when its hot i always drive with the windows down anyway
didnt even use AC when i lived in biloxi mississippi
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Old May 20, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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alright, i re-posted the link. it should work now.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Default Re: not in FAQ: f22 swap?

works now! thanks i'll give that a good read
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