cooling short ram intake
So i was thinking of a way to cool my AEM short ram on my b16a, I've noticed after driving around for 10+ mins the filters nice and warm and so is the intake even tho its plastic and the Intake manifold is hot.
So i found some black plastic ducting, I took the ducting and ran it from the Hole in the engine bay were the cold air intake goes into and down threw the bumper and off to the side of the radiator in the front bumper.
I tested this today but dont have anything but Hand feeling for temp data.
Befor i did this i took a drive for 10mins down the northway got back everything was warm and the intake manifold was hot.
Rigged the plastic ducting all up it feeds right underneath the air filter, Drove for 35mins to my friends going 80 down the northway at 4500rpms the entire way, I pop the hood the Air filter Isn't hot, the Aem intake tube is cold and the Intake manifold is cold all the way down to the bottom of the runner coming from the head were it heat soaked, i Have a hondata IM gasket to install to cure this issue.
It was also 45-50 degress out here in upsate NY tonight.
One qeustion i have is what can i use to get data on the air intake temps?
i was thinking somehow rig a small plant theramoter inside the air filter. Any good idea's please let me know so i can bakc this up.
So i found some black plastic ducting, I took the ducting and ran it from the Hole in the engine bay were the cold air intake goes into and down threw the bumper and off to the side of the radiator in the front bumper.
I tested this today but dont have anything but Hand feeling for temp data.
Befor i did this i took a drive for 10mins down the northway got back everything was warm and the intake manifold was hot.
Rigged the plastic ducting all up it feeds right underneath the air filter, Drove for 35mins to my friends going 80 down the northway at 4500rpms the entire way, I pop the hood the Air filter Isn't hot, the Aem intake tube is cold and the Intake manifold is cold all the way down to the bottom of the runner coming from the head were it heat soaked, i Have a hondata IM gasket to install to cure this issue.
It was also 45-50 degress out here in upsate NY tonight.
One qeustion i have is what can i use to get data on the air intake temps?
i was thinking somehow rig a small plant theramoter inside the air filter. Any good idea's please let me know so i can bakc this up.
The easiest I would think would be to borrow an OBD code scanner that supports live data tracking and just take a look at it right on the scanner. I'm fairly confident IAT is one of the things you can look at on the code scanner if you have a good model.
Either that or find someone who has some kind of engine management (that can datalog) with an SRI and try it out on their car. Basically you are turning it into a CAI, although you are probably realizing the resonance effects of the SRI which is kind of nice; best of both worlds.
Either that or find someone who has some kind of engine management (that can datalog) with an SRI and try it out on their car. Basically you are turning it into a CAI, although you are probably realizing the resonance effects of the SRI which is kind of nice; best of both worlds.
i have a hondata s200 not sure if i can log it with that, i still need to get the ecu socketed and install the s200 in the car. So it will be some time befor i get that done. I'll look into if i can do that with my s200
If your S200 has the data logging option activated, you can drive around and see the difference in IAT temperatures on your laptop. The best way to cool the intake is to run a CAI instead of an SRI as your testing has already shown you what everyone already knows about CAI's. They also make more power because of their longer length which helps take advantage of the resonance tuning. Why fabricate something that will lower the air temps but not give you the same power gains as a proper CAI?
to be honest i like trying different things and it dosnt cost any money. You never know what the outcome could be untill its tested. im not one to follow the bandwagon...
There's a difference. When someone comes on the site and claims that by adding one bottle of octane booster gave him 10whp extra and everyone goes running to try it believing the claim, that would be considered following the bandwagon.
Intake pipes have been thoroughly tested and studied by many people, on and off this site over the years and a lot of factual information documented. Information like a longer length of pipe than the average SRI can gain a significant amount of power, especially when it is custom tuned to a specific motor. The fact that a flow stack on the end of the pipe is usually good for another 2-3whp on average. The fact that an intake will usually make more power with a filter on it than without one. The fact that a CAI significantly lowers the intake air temperatures compared to an SRI, especially when driving around town, helping power gains.
I respect your desire to try "new ideas" but the area you're playing with now won't show you anything that some time reading and searching the archives on this site will tell you. It's up to you to decide how you want to learn about these things but I can assure you that you won't discover anything that's not already known about air intakes.
Intake pipes have been thoroughly tested and studied by many people, on and off this site over the years and a lot of factual information documented. Information like a longer length of pipe than the average SRI can gain a significant amount of power, especially when it is custom tuned to a specific motor. The fact that a flow stack on the end of the pipe is usually good for another 2-3whp on average. The fact that an intake will usually make more power with a filter on it than without one. The fact that a CAI significantly lowers the intake air temperatures compared to an SRI, especially when driving around town, helping power gains.
I respect your desire to try "new ideas" but the area you're playing with now won't show you anything that some time reading and searching the archives on this site will tell you. It's up to you to decide how you want to learn about these things but I can assure you that you won't discover anything that's not already known about air intakes.
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