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I have a 96hatch that I lowered on Koni STRT shocks and ebay coil overs (I know I regret that purchase)

I took the car this morning to Tires Plus for an alignment and when i left i noticed my steering wheel was at around 10:30 instead of at 12:00 (center).

The alignment numbers to start were not too bad and the finished numbers were good except the obvious front camber at -2 deg. My toe angle was fixed to within specs.

I took the car back in the afternoon and they claim it's a busted trans. mount witch is truly gone but shouldn't cause a steering alignment issue, if anything just a minor torque steer.


So what to do next????

 

If you left with the steering wheel at 10 instead of 12 oclock then it meant that they probably didn't put a steering wheel lock inside your car before they did the alignment. Your steering wheel tends to move when they adjust the toe settings..

 

oh yeah well the previous owner of my car put a oem steering wheel on and it looked like i was doing a u-turn going straight! lol i had to take the wheel off and back on straight lol

 

my steering wheel moved around hella when it got aligned.

 

it always best to get a camber kit when you gotta droped car so the wheel wont move as much after alighned

 

^^what?
Dont get a camber kit, they arent neccasary and are a waste of money.

 

bs they are too if you want your tires to last longer, oh nevermind im waisting my time

 

^Im runing -3.8degrees in front for almost a year with bearly any unusal wear, yes you are wasteing your time, you have no clue what your talking about.

 

Read this before posting your bull **** about camber kits again.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/no-you-do-not-need-camber-kits-2614449/

 

ok of course i guess i wouldnt know what i was talking about when i road race my cars! so of course i couldnt see a diff when my camber is at -2.7 front and -3.0 rear and put more toe-in front and toe-out rear having a better turn in, honestly im wasiting my time because im not going to lower my intellagence to a lower level to explain the math behind a fully adjustable suspension in just your camber alone

 

Toes eats tires NOT CAMBER, PERIOD!!

 

camber and toe eats tires, if the camber angle is so far in-ward then over time it can cause camber wear on the tires and also weight of the car will also aply

 

did you not see im runing -3.8 degrees? I know exactly what it does and doesnt do, toe will kill tire extreamly fast camber will not. Maybe if your runing -4+ but i still doubt it would fast. There are far to many people that can say the exact thing i am, i mean come on theres a thread about it, so there has be some truth, you cannot denay the fact that toe will wear the tires 10 times as fast.

 

regardless of what you guys say. Your suspension shouldnt be running out of the recommended alignment settings unless your tracking your car. Most likely your not if you bought ebay coilovers. By the way, camber kits do work, you guys are crazy if yuo think its a waste of time, haha

 

oh no dout dude, thats why i only run toe-in on my race cars, yeah i saw your camber setting, all i was trying to get around is that having better performance from your tires you can getta camber kit and your tires will last even longer, sorry if i dont stop at "thats good enough" i want maximum performance from all my cars

 

never said they didnt work, they do. Howver, they are requied on a lowerd car or to keep the wheel from moving after an alignment which i have never heard of before.

 

easy dude i "was" stating camber kits do work and arent a waste of time

 

is it safe to say we're done killing each other and now we can attack this new guy? lol

 

No need to attack. i have a thread, and a huge number of people that will say the same exact thing i said.
People say you need camber kits because some idiot at a shop said you need them.

 

ok here ill even say it so we can see smiles, i have a droped ek and i dont have cambers and dont ever plain on putting them on, ive had the tires for a year and i have a small amoute of camber wear, i agree you dont need them on a street car only if your wanting more from some exspensive tires (drag radials)

 

^^ exactly, my friend cambered his azenies to the wires in about 5-6000 miles.
They also reduce clearence between the uca and the shock tower.

 

yup, well if i think about it i mite run them but thats only if ill take my daily to hpde's

 

Thanks for the thread jack....but
A. this isn't my first project hatch
B. with only -2 deg of camber up front I don't see it necessary to invest in a camber kit.
C. too much neg. camber will eat the inside of your tires, ive proven this countless times, it's logic not math if your cars weight is sitting on the inside of the tires contact patch your only gain is maybe a slight advantage in cornering grip but your downfall is excessive and un-ever wear on your tires


Back on topic.

I might take the steering wheel off and just move it a new splines to center, but these guys swear they locked the steering wheel prior to the alignment job, the guy appears to know his $hit, i'm just worried I might have a more serious issue with my front suspension...maybe a control arm issue?

 

editing to remove my threadjack.

 

Sorry,camber mixxed with a bit of toe will really mess them up, but just negative camber wont really do much for a long perod of time.

As for the bent control arm I'm sure youd see a problem with the alignment, my wheel did this to after a put si lca's on so im in for a answer as well. Does the car pull at all??
At a lot of shops the guys dont really know much, this is why i perfer to get my alignments done a performance shops, where they know a bit about honda/acura etc.