Ok. Well i recently have a B18B in my 95 ej1. With some bolt on's and a ls tranny. No clutch of flywheel mods.

I was currently looking at numbers and power and cost effectiveness of either a N/A b18b with maybe some cams a I/M and thats it.

Or get a JRSC kit and go from there.

Or turbo the sucker....

But im really concerned as to cop trouble here in CALI. The pigs have gotten more **** and loose than before. Now they pop you for the F of it even if you aint doing nothing wrong. They will look for a reasonto stop you. So I'm looking for suggestions as to what to do.

Anything from maybe getting a b16 trans to turbo etc. Ive searched some what but some of these threads are F'en long to be reading them completely. Some are just replies etc. So i dont get much info.

Any opinions and numbers and reliability are Thanked. Do note i want RELIABILITY.

TIA

 

Are jrsc's carb legal? You could sc it and swap a b16 tranny in.

can you pass with a chipped ecu??

 

I would say swap in a GSR trans, B16 tranny is too short for any type of freeway driving for an LS engine. Lighter ITR or aftermarket flywheel/clutch combo.

I mention these, because thats what I have on my LS and it runs great and have not had any problems with reliability. My setup:
1994 B18B1(Hondata thermal IM gasket)
1997 B18C1 Trans
1999 ITR flywheel/clutch combo

 

^true, you could always go itr and get a lsd.....

 

well i was planning on getting a fidanza flywheel and stage 2 clutch. And yes the JRSC kit is 50 state legal. I was thinking maybe some stage 1 cams and a IM and calling it a day. But i would really like to pull on my friends k20a2. LoL. And i highly doubt N/A is the answer.

 

There was a guy that got a k20 carb legal, looked like a crazy amount of work.

 

Well he has a Acura RSX type S. Not a civic with a k20 swap. I want to stay with my b18b but i want more power of this sucker. People tell me to go LSV but I'm because ive heard many horror stories.

 

that and i dont belive it's carb legal, and can be VERY unreliable.

Forgot to ask but whats the budget?

 

Well as far as budget i have no idea. And sort of have no set limit. All i know as of now is im leaning more towards boost. But my main problem is a drive my car as a DD for about 120-200 miles per day. i rarely do 200 but i have gotten that far. I work as a courier so reliability is a major concern as much as is it even worth it to work on my car with such miles being driven daily.

 

GSR trans w/LSD(the difference between the LS trans is night and day, I speak from experience)
Lightweight flywheel/clutch
Thermal IM gasket
Stage 2 cams
ECU tune
I assume your running the P75, not the OBD1 PR4

I wouldn't go much more than that for smog and reliability. But I am pulling my B18B1 out this week to drop in my built B16A, dont have to deal with smog here.

 

Can he pass with a chipped and tuned ecu thought???cali has some pretty strict laws.

 

Don't know havent lived in Cali since 2000, probably not, so that really limits what he can do.

 

Isnt p75 a gsr ecu? All i know is im running my obd1 ls ecu. Whatever that is.

 

So i'm guessing you would take a gsr trans over a b16?

 

GSR ecu is P72.
OBD1 LS ecu's PR4(92-93) P74 & P75(94-01)

 

I actually have the GSR trans in my car right now. Switched from a LS trans a month ago and will never look back. Although, since my B18B1 engine was free, it was never meant to be a permanent power plant for my ride, just needed something to get it driveable while I built my primary engine.

 

op, or anyone, can you pass smog with a chip and tune?

 

theres a lot of testing that goes on for california smog test. im glad that i have out of state tag and live in california

 

I would Turbo your LS if you want more power out of it. LS's will take a lot of abuse.

I have a stock N/A(bolt-ons) LS with a GSR tranny as tlarimer does. I think its a fun setup. I don't have experience using an LS tranny but as tlarimer says, from what I have heard the GSR is way better.

I just think a B16A tranny is to short for an LS at extended highway miles. In 5th gear at 80mph I turn 3900-4000RPMs. I think the B16A tranny hits around 4000RPMs 10mph sooner at 70mph. That's fine for a B16A as it revs high from the factory anyways. 5000RPMs at 80mph in 5th on an LS for an extended time is a lot IMO and I wouldn't like it.

I have a stage 2 clutch and lightweight flywheel and really like the clutch over the softer stock setup.

If you use quality parts on a Turbo build along with a good Tune, your engine will treat you right(or should) for a good long while. Of course, **** can happen at any time..but that's true whether your at 100hp or 400.

 

Yeah...idk. Im debating wether turbo or supercharger. I kind of like the SC idea since i can run a RMF header with it...LoL. Might look into getting a gsr tranny and stage2 clutch fidanza wheel in the next couple of months. I just got a header for cheap for the LS. But i havent installed it or ran it since my car is torn up right now cuz im replacing all my bushing with ES bushings. Not cuz i wanted to but the front LCA bushings were shot and i couldnt get an aligment.

So next weekend im slapping it on and buying a new cap rotor for the dizzy along with some NGK wires because right now it has BOSCH which is a no-no for me. I got it like that. After all this is done im gonna save to get my new trans and other stuff. By end of year ill be doing my next mod. Wether it be SC or turbo. Was gonna get a b16 trans cuz i rarely drive hwy but nevermind after all ive been hearing about it. Ill stick with a gsr trans just for those once in a while hwy trips.

 

^^

 

So now i need help as to what is more reliable SC or Turbo. I know they both will need a tune which i can do. And the SC kit usually runs about 800 bux on ebay. I would purchase it and send it for a rebuild. Or piece a turbo kit on my own......Decisions......decisions.

 

Sence you will be saving for a bit, i would peice a turbo kit togher, but wont it have to be carb legal?
You could even peice a sc kit togther, you can get exactly what you want in either kit, and you dont have to just drop 1500+ at once.

 

I don't know much about the Supercharger stuff. But as with a Turbo setup, I would think as long as you used quality parts and got a good tune that you would be fine.

Probably more comes down to what you yourself want. I like Turbos better than Superchargers, Just my opinion.

 

Turbos:
Pros
-Can increase the boost relatively easy compared to a SC.
-Are more common and parts such as BOV's and wastegates will be easier to find.
-And of course you'll have the coveted "whoosh" of the BOV lol.

Cons
-More moving parts, so the possibility of something malfunctioning is greater.
-Typically more expensive.
-Will not be carb legal if you "piece" the kit together yourself.
-Must wait longer for boost since it is created by exhaust gases.


Superchargers:
Pros
-Generally less expensive.
-Less parts required.
-Almost instant boost since a supercharger is belt driven by the motor.
-Still be able to run a nice header.

Cons
-Less people run SC's compared to turbos, so parts might be harder to find used.
-Most SC's run at around 8 pounds of boost and can't be increased like a turbo can.
-Less boost usually equals less power.

Just some things to help you make your decision. Hope this helps.