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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Default 16x8 30 offset TE37

I was on 17's, so the car is way too high now, will take it to lower tomorrow and add some camber
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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I had 16x8 TE37's and they were a +38. I definitely had to have camber to get them to work properly.

Still, I dialed it back to a 7.5" wide rim and didn't have to make any compromises to get them to work properly.

Plus, not like there are a bunch of 16" tires that'll work on an ITR that needs a wheel 8" wide.
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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I was on 17's, so the car is way too high now
The ride height of the car depends on the tire size (and any suspension lowering) and doesn't necessarily change with the diameter of the wheel. In fact, if you use the best tire size of 205/40-17 with your 17" wheels, it doesn't change the ride height of the car at all, compared with the stock tire size (195/55-15 on 15" wheels).

You're much better off with 16x7 wheels than 16x8. With 16x7, you can use 205/45-16 or 215/45-16 tires, and there are a lot more choices in 205/45-16, including the supersticky Bridgestone Potenza RE-11. 16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16, so it will force you to use 215/45-16 - and 215/45-16 may rub if you lower that suspension. Stick with 16x7, not 16x8, if you don't want to run into problems later.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 02:16 AM
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Sick wheels.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:28 AM
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Do want. Are you getting rid of the white TE's?
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:33 AM
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Yep, that sticks out as much as I would have expected
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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The ride height of the car depends on the tire size (and any suspension lowering) and doesn't necessarily change with the diameter of the wheel. In fact, if you use the best tire size of 205/40-17 with your 17" wheels, it doesn't change the ride height of the car at all, compared with the stock tire size (195/55-15 on 15" wheels).

You're much better off with 16x7 wheels than 16x8. With 16x7, you can use 205/45-16 or 215/45-16 tires, and there are a lot more choices in 205/45-16, including the supersticky Bridgestone Potenza RE-11. 16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16, so it will force you to use 215/45-16 - and 215/45-16 may rub if you lower that suspension. Stick with 16x7, not 16x8, if you don't want to run into problems later.
I have been looking at some tire specs and saw that RE11's have "Measuring Rim Width" of 8. Does this mean that it will support 8" wide wheel?

Azenis RT-615K also has 7.0-8.0 for the approved rims category.

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...roduct_ID=2033

http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/Azenis-RT-615K-14

Is this still going to cause issues even though the tires are suggesting you can run 8" wide wheels?


beat: What is your suspension set up?
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Do want. Are you getting rid of the white TE's?
I am getting rid of the white TE's, also got some 17 LE available
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by g3teg97
I have been looking at some tire specs and saw that RE11's have "Measuring Rim Width" of 8. Does this mean that it will support 8" wide wheel?

Azenis RT-615K also has 7.0-8.0 for the approved rims category.

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...roduct_ID=2033

http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/Azenis-RT-615K-14

Is this still going to cause issues even though the tires are suggesting you can run 8" wide wheels?


beat: What is your suspension set up?

Need to dial in quite some camber to fit. I have rolled fenders on the rear. I will get the camber fixed tomorrow and update you with the minimum camber available to fit them in without crazy rubbing.
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Only problem with trying to get such a wide rim with a low offset to fit under the OEM fenders is that you have to run a lot of static camber. Sometimes too much.

To do a 8" +30 properly, you really need to modify your fenders to fit get a proper setup.

And the 205/45/16 RE-11 and 215/45/16 RT615 really works well on a 7.5" rim. Anything larger and you really won't see any benefit. However, both will fit and work on a 8" wheel if that's all you have--but I wouldn't specifically buy an 8" wheel for an Integra as no tire can really use the width properly.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by g3teg97
I have been looking at some tire specs and saw that RE11's have "Measuring Rim Width" of 8. Does this mean that it will support 8" wide wheel?
No, but...

Originally Posted by g3teg97
Azenis RT-615K also has 7.0-8.0 for the approved rims category.
...that means it can be mounted on a 16x8 wheel. Remember, I said that most 215/45-16 tires (including these) can be mounted on 16x8 wheels, but not most 205/45-16 tires.

I think that chart has an error on it, because the rim widths have different numbers there than on the Tire Rack website. I'll contact Tire Rack and see if I can find out more.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Thanks for the information nsxtasy and Todd00.

I was tossing around the idea of going with a 16x8 wheel set up. I think after hearing Todd00's input that it's not worth it.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 16x8 30 offset TE37

I personally run a 15x7 +35 offset TE37 with 215/50/15 BFG G-Force Sports and do not have any rubbing, EXCEPT under extreme track conditions the rears did rub the rubber fender liner slightly, but hardly even noticeable except on the rubber liner themselves.

I am going to upgrade to 225 NT-01's this year, but the measuring size and cut seems to be right on with the 215/50/15 BFG's.

I figured the 16x8 would stick out entirely too far, but to each there own. They are sick wheels regardless!
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tootsie7944
I personally run a 15x7 +35 offset TE37 with 215/50/15 BFG G-Force Sports
Sounds like you've made the common mistake of thinking that tread width is an important factor in performance. It isn't. What really matters is the make/model of the tire and its design (compound, tread pattern, construction, etc). A stickier but slightly narrower tire will give you MUCH better grip than a less sticky but slightly wider tire; for example, a 205/50-15 Bridgestone RE-11 or Dunlop Star Spec will give you MUCH better grip than a 215/50-15 for the relatively crappy BFG g-Force Sport. If you want better grip, concentrate on getting better, stickier tires, not wider tires.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Ahh but a 225 Hoosier will be stickier AND wider.

I say run a 225 street tire on those 16" volks and enjoy them around town.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Ahh but a 225 Hoosier will be stickier AND wider.

I say run a 225 street tire on those 16" volks and enjoy them around town.
A 225 street tire would be perfect on a 16x8, but who makes a decently sticky one in the correct O.D.?

Hoosier does (as you said), but that would get really expensive, really quick.
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Originally Posted by Todd00
A 225 street tire would be perfect on a 16x8, but who makes a decently sticky one in the correct O.D.?
Nobody.

If you want street tires, get some RE-11 or R1R in 205/45, or XS in 215/45. They'll be plenty sticky.
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Sounds like you've made the common mistake of thinking that tread width is an important factor in performance. It isn't. What really matters is the make/model of the tire and its design (compound, tread pattern, construction, etc). A stickier but slightly narrower tire will give you MUCH better grip than a less sticky but slightly wider tire; for example, a 205/50-15 Bridgestone RE-11 or Dunlop Star Spec will give you MUCH better grip than a 215/50-15 for the relatively crappy BFG g-Force Sport. If you want better grip, concentrate on getting better, stickier tires, not wider tires.
Agreed hence why I am going with the NT-01 going forward once the BFG's are shot for track purposes. The car is basically a track car anymore.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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I've been reasonably happy using the NT-01 in 205/50-15 for track use. The only downside is that they aren't lasting as long as the Toyo RA-1 (1200 vs 2000 track miles), and I may go back to the RA-1 next time around.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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16inch tire sizes are dying out. Not much to choose from anymore.
Im planning to run 225/45/16 Dunlop 03G's
Will need some fender work to fit those in.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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16inch tire sizes are dying out. Not much to choose from anymore.
That's not true at all.

A couple of years ago, there was only one 16" "extreme performance" tire available in the States (the Azenis). Now there are all these choices:

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 205/45-16
Kumho Ecsta XS 215/45-16
Toyo Proxes R1R 205/45-16
Falken Azenis RT-615K 215/45-16

And there are as many choices of other kinds of tires in 16" ITR sizes now as there have ever been.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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In the states maybe. Not here in Hong Kong though.
And Im looking mainly for R tires.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by beat
In the states maybe. Not here in Hong Kong though.
And Im looking mainly for R tires.
Even in R compound tires, there are more choices than there used to be. Until recently, there were no R compound tires in sizes to fit an ITR. Now you can get the Kumho Ecsta V710 in 215/45-16. At least, you can here in the States.
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
I've been reasonably happy using the NT-01 in 205/50-15 for track use. The only downside is that they aren't lasting as long as the Toyo RA-1 (1200 vs 2000 track miles), and I may go back to the RA-1 next time around.


Kind of ot, but how do these two tires compare in terms of ultimate grip?

I can get either the ra1 or the nt01 through a friend deeply discounted.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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I think a set of te37v would look better.
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