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Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Default Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

Del Sol, wheel base: 93.30in, turning radius: 30.80ft
'90 Miata wheel base: 89.20in, turning radius: 30.60ft
CRX, wheel base: 90.60in, turning radius: 30.40ft
'96-'00 Civics, wheel base: 103.20in, turning radius: 32.80ft
'92-'95 Civic hatchback wheel base: 101.30in, turning radius: 32.20ft
'92-'95 Civic coupe/sedan wheel base: 103.20in, turning radius: 32.80ft
'94-'01 Integra GS-R Sedan wheel base: 103.10in, turning radius: 35.40ft
94-'01 Integra GS-R Coupe wheel base: 101.20in, turning radius: 34.80ft
source: autos.msn.com

A few things I've realized by looking at all the data here. First, I realize that the '96-'00 Civics all have the same wheelbase whether they be coupes, sedans or hatchbacks which may help explain why the hatches, coupes and sedans of that generation share the same turning radius.. The Integra, despite the Integra Sedan having about the same wheel base length as the '92-'00 Civic Sedans and same track length in the front and rear, the Integra has a much larger turning radius. I am aware that the Integra has wider rims and tires but I'm not sure what tire rim combination they're comparing them with.. Is there something else that could explain the larger turning radius of the Integra over the Civics???

I may be mistaken but one problem I see is that they're saying that the cars with the narrow rims and tires have the exact same turning radius as the cars with the wider rims and tires.. Wider tires and wheels are suppose to increase the turning radius since the car can't turn the wheels as far, right?

Alright, so I was wondering if there was something that could be done to improve the turning radius of these vehicles or would it require a replacement of the entire steering rack?
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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There's really no way to improve the turning radius because everything involved with it includes the transaxle, hub design, etc. It gets even worse when you add an LSD into the mix.

Turning radius is pretty unimportant as well. Unless of course you're into driving around shopping malls and trying to park in tiny spots.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa
There's really no way to improve the turning radius because everything involved with it includes the transaxle, hub design, etc. It gets even worse when you add an LSD into the mix.

Turning radius is pretty unimportant as well. Unless of course you're into driving around shopping malls and trying to park in tiny spots.
Pretty much what I do... I'm just confused about why the Integra has a larger turning radius unless it can be blamed on the 6 inch wide wheels opposed to the 5 inch wide wheels on the civics.. I also want to make sure that the 6 inch wide wheels I have on my civic aren't hurting its turning radius.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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Default Re: Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

Probably due to the wheel base as the CRX and Del Sol use the same components and have a tighter turning radius.

I think the issue is more on your side than the car's. I live in Japan, have a Mugen LSD and don't have too many problems parking or driving in tight places.
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa
Probably due to the wheel base as the CRX and Del Sol use the same components and have a tighter turning radius.

I think the issue is more on your side than the car's. I live in Japan, have a Mugen LSD and don't have too many problems parking or driving in tight places.
But the Integra has the same wheel base, same track as the civic yet it has a much larger turning radius, how can that be? What exactly would be limiting the Integra over the Civic?
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

wouldnt decreasing toe a bit give him a better turning radius

but still in turn, wear out the tires faster and lower mpg
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Old Dec 26, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Hi All.

Well, I'm not actually "into driving around shopping malls and trying to park in tiny spots" but visiting the first of those usually implies the latter and the same holds in railway station car parks!

For starters, where can I find the value of the turning radius of my beloved 1998 1.8 Civic?

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Roy

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa
There's really no way to improve the turning radius because everything involved with it includes the transaxle, hub design, etc. It gets even worse when you add an LSD into the mix.

Turning radius is pretty unimportant as well. Unless of course you're into driving around shopping malls and trying to park in tiny spots.
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Old Dec 26, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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This improves any cars turning radius.
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Default Re: Any way to improve the turning radius of a Civic..?

Originally Posted by fleabag
But the Integra has the same wheel base, same track as the civic yet it has a much larger turning radius, how can that be? What exactly would be limiting the Integra over the Civic?
I know this is a really old thread, but the limiting factor is the rack. The Integra power rack is about a full turn quicker lock to lock when compared to the '92 - '95 civic version, this is because it doesn't go as far in either direction.

I have '94 Integra rack in my '93 Civic Si, it definitely gave it a wider turning radius.

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