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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Default 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

If one were to buy an S2000 with intentions of mild modification (300hp to 350hp range) what year would be best? Go for the 2000-2003 with the 2.0 and 9k redline or the 2004-2008 with the 2.2 and 8k redline? Any other input as to which generation you prefer aswell. Just looking for general oppinion either way.
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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go with the 2.0 Non Vtec
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 03:54 AM
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mild modification? how much are you looking to spend?
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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i personally think if you plan on modding to 300-350 whp... your choice on which car to buy should lay more in your opinion on other things that differ between AP1 and AP2... buy the style you like more, either way... 2.0 or 2.2 your going to be making the same ballpark horsepower when you add your modifications.

id go Ap1 for the more hardcore driving experience ;-)
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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If you are going FI I would look for something you can afford but preferably low miles and well maintained. Otherwise a beaten on motor could blow up anytime
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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2.0. AP1 all the way.

I'm a Prelude owner, I actually have an F20B for my car. I went to 2.0 liters for the higher revving capacity, if I were shopping for an S2K, same rule applies.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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Their's no replacement for displacement. I would have bought an AP2 if the prices were lower and they weren't drive-by-wire. It's alittle odd reving to 9k for the first week. I had the rev limiter on my H22 lude set at 8k. Even then I only took it out that far in first gear.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

AP1 Motor in an AP2 chassis
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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^^ agree!
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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I have raced two ap1's stock when mine was stock and i won both times. If you get a 04 or 05 they are not drive by wire. I like torque personally but you do get the higher revs with the 2.0. Both are awesome. Its all on your wallet.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

It's all the same, get what you can afford and what style you like.
Can anyone confirm what years were drive by wire?
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Drive by wire started in '06
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

the whole thread is full of fail... just get whatever year you can safely afford... then mod accordingly...
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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[QUOTE=silver05s2k;42143707] I like torque personally QUOTE]

so y drive honda?

and for the record what "mild" mods get u to the the 300-350hp mark?
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

Originally Posted by S2K-APWON
AP1 Motor in an AP2 chassis
Worst of both worlds?

The 2.2 seems to respond better to mods and seems to put down more power to the wheels. Maybe that's because of the better trans gearing or something else....or maybe it really does make more power?

Don't get me wrong...I love revving to 9k, but if I blew up my F20, I'd probably go with a 2.2L swap.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

Originally Posted by S2K-APWON
AP1 Motor in an AP2 chassis
Worst of both worlds?

The 2.2 seems to respond better to mods and seems to put down more power to the wheels. Maybe that's because of the better trans gearing or something else....or maybe it really does make more power?

There were also a lot of small issues with the F20C that were resolved with the F22C. Like the retainers or the oiling banjo bolts, etc.

Don't get me wrong...I love revving to 9k, but if I blew up my F20, I'd probably go with a 2.2L swap.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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ap2 can be cheaper to by an EMS for like hondata flashpro and do not have to make all the modifications like you do for K-pro..very expensive plus and extra 300 dollars or so just to change all the sensors to make it compatible.. basically more options with an 06+ i think..
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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2.0
I drove both stock ap1 and ap2. I ended up paying more for the ap1 than the ap2 i was looking at.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

2.0 ap1 ftw
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

My opinion is the first generation was the car Honda wanted to make and the second generation was in response to the weenies who thought it was to raw for a street car. Just my opinion, obviously I'm a fan of the first one
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Old May 8, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

the one you can afford. Ap2 biased.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 or 2.2 S2000 - Who likes what?

Originally Posted by winglessevo
My opinion is the first generation was the car Honda wanted to make and the second generation was in response to the weenies who thought it was to raw for a street car. Just my opinion, obviously I'm a fan of the first one
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I've said that before somewhere haha.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sidewaysdreamer
ap2 can be cheaper to by an EMS for like hondata flashpro and do not have to make all the modifications like you do for K-pro..very expensive plus and extra 300 dollars or so just to change all the sensors to make it compatible.. basically more options with an 06+ i think..
You can find Ap1s for a lot cheaper then 06+ with the money you saved not buying the 06+ you could build your build the AP1 motor and switch all the sensors out.

5 minutes on Auto trader

2000 - 26,000 miles for $14,000
2001 - 67,000 miles for $12,000
2002 - 77,000 miles for $12,000


2006 - 39,000 miles for $21,000
2007 - 29,500 miles for $24,000
2008 - 11400 miles for $27,000

Build the motor and do a turbo set up for the amount of money you save buying a older one....
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Old May 11, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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AP1 with AP2 tranny and top with glass window. Also throw some AP2 interior pieces in there and your golden

Hell thats what my car is... 9K FTW!! (IMOP)
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Old May 12, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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s2000s live in high rev range, ap1
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