Im going off to college and im looking for something quick and reliable...my question is which is quicker and which is more reliable?

 

what a dumb question

 

They are both quick and reliable. Which suits your needs better?

 

I have a GSR and a Prelude 00, They are both nice. But less chance a prelude will get jacked, and prelude Is nice cornering and TQ.... Its up to you (DUHH).

 

You ask this question in a Prelude forum. What answer do you expect?

 

well. GSR tranny has a better punchout, but the prelude will catch up no doubt. i have a 98 base model prelude, and my friend gus has a 97 GSR teggie. he has a harder take off but, mine for some reason has a bigger vtec pull. but its all up to you. go test drive a couple and see which one suits you better.

 

punchout? wtf

 

Maybe if the GSR is going up against "Glass Jaw Joe".

 

GSR for minor reliability reasons, shift rods - wont wear out as fast as shift cables, iron sleeves, no FRM, haha, less extra **** in the engine bay, still all dumb reasons, but i think a integra is more reliable, also the prelude wont be reliable until you get rid of the auto tensioner, unless you buy a h23. or f22. S model. Oh yea ,4 less ball joints to go bad, basically they are both good cars but integra like a civic is made more simple, and that means less parts to break.... just my $.02

 

Prelude > Integra IMO

Why?:

H-series Vtec makes B-series VTEC feel weak as hell in my driving experince (torque)
Style
Torque
Class
Lovely torque and horsepower much longer through the powerband
Double wishbone suspension = MAD HANDLES YO (ITRs have them also, but thats $$$)
Torque
Chicks dig the Ludes... let me tell you.
Torque

...Did i mention TORQUE?

My good friend used to have a 93 Integra SE with a GRS trans, head P+P+ P-matching, and crower stage 2 non-vtec cams. My 93 JDM vtec LSD, otherwise bone stock prelude is what made my friend sell the integtra and buy a 90 Mitsu GSX so he can finally beat me.

And as far as reliability goes, at the end of the day preludes and integras are hondas. That means reliability. And in my 10 years of honda experience i have nothing bad to say about either model about reliability.

 

The prelude is more rare and wayyy more sexy!(Especially if it's a electron blue 5th gen).

 

I'm just pointing out that all USDM Integras have a double wishbone in the front and multilink in the rear. The ITR is not that special.

 

Twin turbo Supra

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um, are we REALLY calling H22's "Torquey"? b/c 140-something ft-lbs isn't exactly a torque monster. It's more than 135 lbs, I guess.

 

161tq.....not 140something.....tq monster honda!!!!!!!!!

 

hehe, well are we talking wheel torque or flywheel torque?

 

having owned both its easily prelude for me. My Gsr was cool when i started to mod it, but stock for stock it wasnt even close. The prelude looked better,handled better, a tiny better interior. Also i didnt have to worry about the prelude getting stolen when i wanted to go watch a freaking movie.

 

I've owned both as well. I'll just give you a stock for stock comparison. They're both reliable so that you don't have to worry about. The Prelude handles better and has more torque but is much heavier. I'd have to say my stock GSR was a bit quicker than my Prelude but it's pretty close and some people here will claim the opposite. The GSR was better on gas mileage. Insurance was about the same for both.

The Integra definitely has more of a chance of getting stolen so you being a college student, that alone might be worth getting the Prelude. I like the Prelude interior a bit better and the exterior is objective to personal preferance as I had a JDM front integra and I think it looked way way cleaner than the Prelude.

Stock for stock though I'd tell you to get the Prelude but the Integra is more mod friendly as the B series has more aftermarket support and used parts are literally everywhere plus the Integra is easier to work on.

 

Whatever. 3300# cruise missle won't corner for ****. If I want naught but straight line performance I'd go with a turbo, RWD and a POS pushrod V8.

My h22a1 made 150wtq on the 100,000 mile stock engine. My nonVTEC Accord hybrid I assembled on the cheap made 185 wtq. 185 foot/pounds for any NA inline four other than K-series is not very common.

2¢

 

Prelude is a little quicker, Teg is a little more reliable.
I own both.
Prelude----less JackFactor.
People are stealing bone stock RS/LS/GS these days.
Prelude=Sits on a street in Chicago---sometimes unlocked
Integra=Sits in a garage, has alarm, or gets parked on street with wheel/pedal lock.
See a trend there?

 

I made 189/163 to the wheels in my old prelude--but relative to whatever options are out there now, i just think it's a bit disingenuous to call the H22 "torquey."

 

If that was with bolt-ons, it was a high reading dyno.

 

it was all bolt ons. and it's the most notoriously optimistic dyno around, Shawn Church's dynapak. but hey, I still enjoyed my car, mostly for the suspension and LSD.

 

From my own experience, 4th Gen Prelude Vtec vs. GSR, the cars are very similar in most aspects. I do find the Prelude to have a slightly more "special" feel to it as far as the interior and outward appearance are concerned, and you see so few of them (in my area at least, especially clean ones). The Prelude, from the examples of each car I've driven, seems to have a more "solid" feel to it and better high speed stability, while the GSR does feel a little lighter on its feet.

Acceleration wise punching it from say a 10 MPH roll (to eliminate driver/launching technique differences) the cars are pretty close 1st and 2nd gear, the GSR having a little more aggressive gearing and the Prelude having more TQ keeps them relatively even, however, once 3rd hits the Prelude starts to walk away and by 4th the TQ difference really starts to show when fighting wind resistance.

There are more parts for the GSR, especially in the suspension department, that combined with it's lighter wieght (less wear on breaks, tires, etc.) MIGHT make it a better track car. However, the weight difference between a GSR Integra and a 4th gen Prelude isn't really as ridiculous as people make it sound (2650 for the GSR vs. 2850 for a 4th gen Lude).

It's kind of a wash though I guess. I personally prefer the Prelude, as well as the H series, and can say that I've never lost to a GSR unless it had internal work done to it.

 

Get a bike. These cost less than almost any car mod and they will last you probably half a life time. I'm not talking about a motorbike, i mean a pedal bike.