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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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I tried comparing the prices between buying the combo separate and buying the complete package from gc. there's a difference of ~$360.

Koni Sport:
-8041 1152Sport (Font) $238.50 per pair
-8041 1213Sport (Rear) $238.50 per pair
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$477.00

GC:
-92-00 Honda Civic/Del Sol (LIMITED EDITION) Sleeves $299.00 per set
-Made for use with Koni Sports $40.00
-Custom spring rates $40.00
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$379.00

Parts purchased separately $856.00
Complete kit from GC $1219.00

someone at koni emailed me back confirming that all required hardware comes with the shocks so there's no extra cost there. i'm a little confused about the sleeves though, i'm not sure if that's the price for one, two, or four. nobody has gotten back to me about that yet. can anyone here clear this up for me?
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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the price for the ground controls is all 4.
what hardware is included?
go to weaksauce, you can get the full setup for around 900 ish shipped


http://www.weaksauceparts.com/store/...at=1170&page=1
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

that's odd, I got Koni GC's with custom spring rates for 339. Shouldn't be any extra to specify your own spring rates, unless they decided to change that.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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-Made for use with Koni Sports $40.00
-Custom spring rates $40.00

You shouldn't be getting charged for that.

What vendor gave you this pricing?
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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799 shipped for all of it in any rate you want from thmotorsports.com
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

on the ground control site it charges 40 for custom spring rates
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
the price for the ground controls is all 4.
what hardware is included?
go to weaksauce, you can get the full setup for around 900 ish shipped

http://www.weaksauceparts.com/store/...at=1170&page=1
the hardware for the koni shocks (washers and whatnot). they sell them separately as a replacement i guess as well. i actually forgot all about that website, thanks for reminding me.

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that's odd, I got Koni GC's with custom spring rates for 339. Shouldn't be any extra to specify your own spring rates, unless they decided to change that.
yeah the gc website charges an extra $40 if you buy through them.

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-Made for use with Koni Sports $40.00
-Custom spring rates $40.00

You shouldn't be getting charged for that.

What vendor gave you this pricing?
straight from the GC site.

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799 shipped for all of it in any rate you want from thmotorsports.com
gonna check this out, thanks for the link.

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on the ground control site it charges 40 for custom spring rates
this^

it just occurred to me that buying through a vendor would most likely be cheaper since they probably buy in bulk, and can afford to cut the pricing a little bit. thanks for all the input, you all just saved me a few hundred dollars.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

still odd, I bought direct from GC in 2004 and it was 339 for Koni GC's with spring rates of my choosing. Sucks that they charge extra now
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Ground Control is based in California which means businesses are taxed more to do business here which probably justifies the extra costs...!!!

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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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I've been buying a lot of parts from TH Motorsports and I'm very pleased. Their service and prices are top notch.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

I called GC and asked if they charged extra for custom rates.

On the Limited Edition Honda sets, which are $299, they charge $40 for custom rates.

On the regular Honda sets, which are $339, they don't charge extra for custom rates.

Nothing changed except the introduction of the Limited Edition?

I don't know what the difference between the Limited Edition and regular sets is.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

Yeah I dont know the difference either. Its the same thing then getting limited ed. with custom rates and regular with custom rates from the post above.
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

Well I didn't buy the limited edition ones. I bought the Koni-specific sleeves, with my choice of spring rate, and it was 339.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Well if you don't want/need custom rates, you can buy the Limited Editions and save $40.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

whats the differnce bewteen regular and limited edition?
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

bump.. had the same question too

Originally Posted by 98civdx
whats the differnce bewteen regular and limited edition?
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

everything for my application (em1) is limited edition only. what makes them limited edition? i don't have a clue. the set i was looking at was just the regular sleeves for a drop, those added the extra $40 for custom rates. the 'road race' version is as far as i can tell, exactly the same only you get custom rates for free. this is also limited edition apparently. these are the ones that cost a flat $339. so if you order directly from GC, make sure you grab the road race version rather than the regulars and save some money.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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koni are 435 shipped on proparts.com
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

the price you found on the koni's is a sale price they are offering. $238 per pair. normaly they are $300-$320 per pair. the kits are based off of the normal price not the sale price.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

Originally Posted by mkazm83
I called GC and asked if they charged extra for custom rates.

On the Limited Edition Honda sets, which are $299, they charge $40 for custom rates.

On the regular Honda sets, which are $339, they don't charge extra for custom rates.

Nothing changed except the introduction of the Limited Edition?

I don't know what the difference between the Limited Edition and regular sets is.
Funny thing is I don't know how "limited" those are since I picked up a Turbo magazine from 2002 and those were made for some Honda's and Acura's stock shocks and the price was $299 ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO!
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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yeah the "limited editions" have been around forever and still 299 lol
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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I just bought a set today for $339. They are the Integra Road Race version, Koni Yellow specific with custom rates, and I paid $339 + shipping.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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ouch!
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
still odd, I bought direct from GC in 2004 and it was 339 for Koni GC's with spring rates of my choosing. Sucks that they charge extra now
Sorry guys! Website error.. $339.00 is still the same price for custom spring rates. I'm fixing the change now!
-Trevor
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: a little confused about koni/gc pricing

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
still odd, I bought direct from GC in 2004 and it was 339 for Koni GC's with spring rates of my choosing. Sucks that they charge extra now
they don't the 40 extra is for koni
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