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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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When i am going over 55mph and i press my brakes my steering wheel shakes and i was thinking the bearing might be bad. I was also thinking that it might be that the rotors are warped so new brakepads and rotors. what you guys think?\\
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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sounds like rotors to me, mine does same thing, but bearings are just fine.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Bad bearing(s) won't do this.

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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 04:51 AM
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well what will?
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:05 AM
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warped rotors will, do you feel it in the brake pedal? Try getting the rotor turned, and if they're warped just get new rotors.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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I would not change out that bearing unless you know 100% for sure that it's causing the problem. They are a HUGE pita. It's probably something with your rotors or a bad balljoint or tie rod under there. Jack up the car and try shaking the front tires side to side and up and down. If there is any movement, find where it's coming from. If no movement, it's probably your rotors.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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I would not change out that bearing unless you know 100% for sure that it's causing the problem. They are a HUGE pita. It's probably something with your rotors or a bad balljoint or tie rod under there. Jack up the car and try shaking the front tires side to side and up and down. If there is any movement, find where it's coming from. If no movement, it's probably your rotors.
10-4 will doo boss! Thanks for the info
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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if its a wheel bearing; with the vehicle lifted grab the tire at the top and bottom and wiggle. If it does, and goes away when the brake pedal is pressed, then its the wheel bearing
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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warped rotors will, do you feel it in the brake pedal? Try getting the rotor turned, and if they're warped just get new rotors.
yesss i do feel it in the break pedal!
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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ok, it just rotors then. Nothing major, have them turned or replaced and that should be the end of it!
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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if its a wheel bearing; with the vehicle lifted grab the tire at the top and bottom and wiggle. If it does, and goes away when the brake pedal is pressed, then its the wheel bearing
I did that on my car and then just assumed it was my bearing. I went through HELL changing that mf'er out, only to realize that it was my inner tie rod that was bad all along. I was like, FML! That's why I said be very sure that's what the problem is before attempting to change that out. That was one mistake I will not soon forget. lol!
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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Warped rotors will actually not cause much of a vibration in the brake pedal. The sliders in the calipers should take up most of the side to side movement if the rotor is warped, resulting in little to no vibration. What will cause the vibration in the brake pedal is if the rotor is not parallel. You can measure this with a micrometer at eight equally spaced points around the circumference of the rotor. There should be no more than .001" difference between the largest and smallest measurement taken.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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slide pins will not take up the vibration, they just allow the caliper to float and move. The movement of the pads in and out from the rotor not being parallel (warped) travels through the brake fluid (since fluid is non compressable) and shows itself in the brake pedal.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:25 AM
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I did that on my car and then just assumed it was my bearing. I went through HELL changing that mf'er out, only to realize that it was my inner tie rod that was bad all along. I was like, FML! That's why I said be very sure that's what the problem is before attempting to change that out. That was one mistake I will not soon forget. lol!
that is exactally what i DONT want to happen to me thats why i made this thread
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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Exactly, the sliding pins will take up the side to side movement resulting in little to no pedal vibration. I have had rotors .005" warped and no vibration at all. That is why OEM specs are:
Paralellism- Max .0006" (yes 6 ten thousanths of an inch)
Warpage- Max .004"
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:30 AM
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I did that on my car and then just assumed it was my bearing. I went through HELL changing that mf'er out, only to realize that it was my inner tie rod that was bad all along. I was like, FML! That's why I said be very sure that's what the problem is before attempting to change that out. That was one mistake I will not soon forget. lol!
Just saying, on tie rods the wheel should wiggle from right to left whereas the tie rod is mounted horizontally opposed to the ball joint and a wheel bearing should only wiggle up and down assumnig you have good tie rods (so that they have no left and right free play) lol
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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well i will put my car on jacks today and let everybody know the results!
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 97twodoor
Exactly, the sliding pins will take up the side to side movement resulting in little to no pedal vibration. I have had rotors .005" warped and no vibration at all. That is why OEM specs are:
Paralellism- Max .0006" (yes 6 ten thousanths of an inch)
Warpage- Max .004"
Im not trying to argue in ths thread but; slide pins allow the calliper to slide left and right, they DO NOT take up the movement or cushion it in anyway. Its metal part, they dont absorb. The movement is transferred back through the fluid and to the pedal.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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Yeah that's what I thought too, but my inner tie rod was so bad on the passenger side it was moving up and down and side to side. lol! I just didn't look hard enough and just assumed a bad bearing. Needless to say, I inspect things more carefully now.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 96hb
Yeah that's what I thought too, but my inner tie rod was so bad on the passenger side it was moving up and down and side to side. lol! I just didn't look hard enough and just assumed a bad bearing. Needless to say, I inspect things more carefully now.
gotcha, thanks for sharing!
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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its the rotors.
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