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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 05:50 AM
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friend of mine gave me a used intercooler, just wondering if i should scrap it, or if it actually would help to cool my intake air by using it on my stock b16
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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no it wont cool your intake it will just create an extra space that needs to fill with air when you open the throttle, meaning throttle response will be hurt with 0 gain. Turbo chargers run very hot thats why there is value in cooling the air.
the rate at which it is cooled is dependent on the difference in temperature since the intake temp at the intercooler will be the same as the ambient air no cooling will take place.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:24 AM
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Absolutley no benefit of putting intercooler for NA. Your trying to cool hot air with warm air when using boost. You won't be able to cool warm air with warm air. It only increases piping length and adds a measure of restiction beyond a round pipe.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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these guys ^^ basically covered it
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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LOL, we call that the interfooler
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Please don't put it on there lol. Just sell it or scrap it
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Default Re: is it stupid?...or worth it? na with intercooler

well i figured so, and why are you ppl laughing? i thought it was a legitamate question. oh well, i wonder why ppl put cold air intakes on then...hmmm. ill just throw it in my scrap pile for now

hey, maybe ill re-route my air conditiong ducts to my intake pipe(just kidding)

another thought...why do ppl buy fans for their house?..why would you want the same temp air blowing on you if it doesnt make you any cooler?
not trying to be a smart *** but o well

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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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interesting idea may I even say... lol
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cehcivic15
well i figured so, and why are you ppl laughing? i thought it was a legitamate question. oh well, i wonder why ppl put cold air intakes on then...hmmm. ill just throw it in my scrap pile for now

hey, maybe ill re-route my air conditiong ducts to my intake pipe(just kidding)

another thought...why do ppl buy fans for their house?..why would you want the same temp air blowing on you if it doesnt make you any cooler?
not trying to be a smart *** but o well
lrn2physics dude... you just made yourself look like a complete dumbass right there
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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...another thought...why do ppl buy fans for their house?..why would you want the same temp air blowing on you if it doesnt make you any cooler?
not trying to be a smart *** but o well
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question22.htm
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Fans cool people because they cause evaporation of sweat. Evaporation cools humans, that's why God made us sweat. Your car on the other hand, does nothing of the sort. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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yes i know about sweat and all that jazz lol........but i dont sweat when im laying down sleepin, yet my fan makes me so much cooler. so if you turn a fan on in a room, the temp WILL NOT drop 1 degree? seriously, i dont know, will it or not?
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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TECHNICALLY, it will get warmer, as the fan motor creates heat. This is very negligible though. You are sweating, just not enough to notice.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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okay gottcha..to the guy that asked if i feel stupid...yes i do everyday, but i still ask so i will know. my question was a serious one i really didnt know if it would lower my temps or not and now i know
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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so what REALLY is the point of running a cai besides makin it a lil easier to work under the hood?
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Reasoning is that colder air is denser air. More air = more combustion.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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uhhh are you slightly retarded? you sweat probably more when you sleep. how do you think those nice white sheets get a nasty brown stain?

didn't you think that if that was a good idea that someone would have tried it by now? not like intercoolers are a new thing.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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uhhh are you slightly retarded? you sweat probably more when you sleep. how do you think those nice white sheets get a nasty brown stain?

didn't you think that if that was a good idea that someone would have tried it by now? not like intercoolers are a new thing.
lol, i guess slightly. WHY ARE YOU SHEETS BROWN? do you get sweaty on your crack, and fart alot, im guessing you sleep nude.

this is awesome

i thought i sweat more when im runnin, but i dunno, maybe my new excersize routine will consist of sleeping lol
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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People use cold air intakes because you can pull cooler air from the bumper location, which is usually where a cold air filter mounts, then the engine bay.

Cold air intakes are better then short ram intakes because usually with short ram intakes the air filter sits in the hot engine bay and is relatively close to the radiator fan, so when you fan kicks on, the short ram pulls that hot radiator fan air in and increases the Intake temps. This is why people use cold air intakes.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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CAIs are a waste of money...my throttle response is much better with my factory airbox.
As for your sheets turning brown, sounds like you need to use a shower. Your skin does more than sweat, it produces oils as well, which is what gets transferred to your sheets...now whos the dumbass?
For those of you giving this guy hell for asking about something he simply didnt know, you are the true dumbasses. The only stupid question is one that isnt asked. Remember, there was a point in time you couldnt have answered this mans question either...disgraces of hondatech
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FearTheH
CAIs are a waste of money...my throttle response is much better with my factory airbox.
As for your sheets turning brown, sounds like you need to use a shower. Your skin does more than sweat, it produces oils as well, which is what gets transferred to your sheets...now whos the dumbass?
For those of you giving this guy hell for asking about something he simply didnt know, you are the true dumbasses. The only stupid question is one that isnt asked. Remember, there was a point in time you couldnt have answered this mans question either...disgraces of hondatech
I agree with you man, everyone should stop giving this guy a hard time, he's trying to learn stuff. Isn't that the point of this site, to share information?
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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ahaha . This thread is EPIC !
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Epic because you know everything about everything right? Didnt think so.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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i never got the point of a cai because the manifold plenum is pretty hot and when the air gets there it pretty much rises to the same temp and it cant cool it down because the radiator hose is connected to it not and lets not forget it is connected to the block
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