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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Hey HT, my struts & springs are going out and I'm looking into getting some aftermarket ones. I was wondering what everyone thinks the best strut/spring combo is that gives the SMOOTHEST ride . Im not racing my car around a track or drag racing it or anything like that, so I just want to get something that's going to give me a nice smooth ride.....I know a lot of the aftermarket coilovers can have pretty stiff rides/spring rates . I want to get a spring that gives me either a 1/2" or 1" drop. By the way, I have an '89 civic hatch with the B16 swap in it
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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I had the same wants as you and went with a "great" combination!

Tokico blue struts

ST coil springs
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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tokico blue with eibach pro kit...!!!
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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H&R sport springs are definitely one of the best springs i have ever rode in. felt like the car was at stock height. it was on H&R + stock oem shocks. im sure if you had those springs with any new shocks, it would definitely ride much smooth
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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I'm going to try tokico illumina and tein stechs probably next month

1-1.5 inch drop and smoother rates then stock, along with warrentied shocks
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Smoothest will be fresh stock parts.

If you want to lower it and smooth, well you can but it'll be rougher it's that simple. But you can prevent harsh. Some Eibach springs with a rather sane rate and some koni reds bilstiens and you'll be firmer but not rough.

Your tires and bushings are also a major player in ride quality just remember that as well
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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complete suspension over haul
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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eibach pro-kit (progressive rate) and koni dampers.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 06:01 AM
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Thanks for all the input guys!!! I really appreciate it I've been looking at the tokico HP struts and the eibach pro-kit.....but may check out the koni's & billstein's
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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What about koni ground controls?
aren't those s'pose to be the best?
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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What about...ground controls?
aren't those s'pose to be the best?
if you need height adjustment for corner weighting, yes.

ground control could be used for the OP's purpose if care is taken by ground control to use a rate similar to the progressive rate that a pro-kit would have. i'm saying, ground control uses eibach springs exclusively, but they don't necessarily use the rates that eibach R&Dd for their pro-kit apps. they use their own rates.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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How bout eibach pro-kit stocks with Tokico blue struts ???
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by miguey310
How bout eibach pro-kit stocks with Tokico blue struts ???
sure, if you please.

eibach pro-kit is engineered around the stock damper so a damper like that would work fine.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BiG ChOr!Zo
tokico blue with eibach pro kit...!!!
THIS. I used to have Pro Kits on my old 93 coupe with stock shocks and it rode soooo nice. You don't get much drop, but you aren't looking for much.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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If you love your car don't run Blues. Koni/pro kit or of course Koni/GC.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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I will vouch for Pro kit. Mild Drop but rides similar to stock.

Have them on both:
My teggi w/KYB AGX
My SI w/Koni Yellow

Ride/Look Great both cars.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
If you love your car don't run Blues.
so this is based on what theory
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
If you love your car don't run Blues. Koni/pro kit or of course Koni/GC.
While Koni's are great, you don't need them to run pro kits. Hell you don't need anything other than OEM shocks to run the pro kits. I ran them on my old coupe for years on stock shocks with no problems whatsoever.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Eibach Pro versus Eibach Sportline...the sportlines are ~.5" lower. Can anyone say if there is a noticeable difference in the ride quality? I'd like the extra drop, but not if the ride sucks. These will probably be paired with Tokico Blues. Like the thread title says, I am going for a smooth ride...ie not a track monster.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Fro a smooth ride it's the type of spring more than the manufacturer of the spring.

Look into any spring that's a Progressive rate rather than a fixed rate. That can be Eibach, H&R, Neuspeed (if they still exist), etc. From there decide budget, quality, and name brand but first find out what options there are.

I've run Nuespeed springs in the past and am running an H&R Progressive rate coilover. I love the coilovers but they're pricey. My Nuespeeds were fine for what they were - lowering springs ten years ago.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phillyd
Eibach Pro versus Eibach Sportline...the sportlines are ~.5" lower. Can anyone say if there is a noticeable difference in the ride quality? I'd like the extra drop, but not if the ride sucks. These will probably be paired with Tokico Blues. Like the thread title says, I am going for a smooth ride...ie not a track monster.
hmm, depends on the fitment, really. eibach uses progressive springs for their pro-kits as often as possible and i've yet to encounter a pro-kit i've not liked!

sportlines tend to be noticeably firmer, but the overall ride...it depends on the damper, really. i think a good damper and sportlines, all aligned properly, ride way better than alot of the "street" coilovers out there.

fyi eibach makes something called the pro-system - eibach dampers and springs

i love eibach ****. it's so easy to just plug the stuff in and it works.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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illuminas and prokit.

a better quality shock will provide better comfort. its more important than springs.

eibach sportlines are noticably much stiffer than pro kits. they have to be in order to allow a lower drop.

and eliminate all play from suspension and steering. [this is the big key to a good ride]
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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I just bought the "Eibach Pro System", which comes with the Eibach Pro springs and Eibach Pro dampers. Not many people here talk about their dampers so hopefully I made the right choice. Installing this Saturday.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BiG ChOr!Zo
so this is based on what theory
The "I have owned a set theory"

Originally Posted by 96hb
While Koni's are great, you don't need them to run pro kits. Hell you don't need anything other than OEM shocks to run the pro kits. I ran them on my old coupe for years on stock shocks with no problems whatsoever.
You should have dyno'ed those shocks after those years of use. Blues don't work well with anything more than stock springs. When they do blow with any type of drop springs go ahead and try to collect on that limited lifetime warranty.

Originally Posted by ej888
I just bought the "Eibach Pro System", which comes with the Eibach Pro springs and Eibach Pro dampers. Not many people here talk about their dampers so hopefully I made the right choice. Installing this Saturday.
These will most likely work good considering they were engineered for the drop.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ej888
I just bought the "Eibach Pro System", which comes with the Eibach Pro springs and Eibach Pro dampers. Not many people here talk about their dampers so hopefully I made the right choice. Installing this Saturday.
you made a solid choice my friend. eibach dampers (i believe) are made by sachs, and sachs makes very solid stuff.

as the hawaiian said, you will find that the dampers are valved perfectly for the pro-kit. now, keep in mind pro-kits are engineered around new OE dampers, so i can't speak on the total valving difference between OE dampers and the eibach units, but i'm sure it's dialed ; )

feedback welcomed.
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