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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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picked up a "jdm" 97 spec itr motor and transmission for $500. I will be using the head on my b20 vtec how can i tell if the head is legit? has no green mark on back of dizzy head stamped pr3-2 and p73 00 pistons.
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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Sounds stolen and you sound shady for buying it - good job!
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 01:38 AM
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was it blown up? unless the block is shot that's either an idiot selling it or it's seriously stolen and now you have the hot motor. i'm guessing the block is bad since you're using a b20 rather than the vastly superior b18c? either that or the b20 is sleeved. pr3 anything is a b16 or itr head, which really doesn't matter if you're doing any port work. some of the early jdm itr heads had no port finishing but all after late 96 had a hand blending that became cnc in 98
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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On the first page of the forum.
how to tell a itr head



Now why was this so cheap?
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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lol
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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was it blown up? unless the block is shot that's either an idiot selling it or it's seriously stolen and now you have the hot motor. i'm guessing the block is bad since you're using a b20 rather than the vastly superior b18c? either that or the b20 is sleeved. pr3 anything is a b16 or itr head, which really doesn't matter if you're doing any port work. some of the early jdm itr heads had no port finishing but all after late 96 had a hand blending that became cnc in 98
i just got seriously lucky the guy i bought it from is a friend of mine and was keeping his honda parts at his moms house after he moved out. The rents ended up giving away his crx full of parts cause they were tierd of seeing it sit and his motor was next to go so he sold it to me before they scrapped it.


I pulled the head ports do not look polished or ported . Im thinking i have the early model itr?is it just a b16 head filled with itr valvetrain? Do these things suck compared to the 96+spec? Pistons are stamped p73 00.
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Look at the other thread and then at the pictures is my old FS thread. They show the stock porting.
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Graciiiiiii im going to garage to check right nowwwww
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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take pics and post them
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Green paint on the head behind the distributor.

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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We have a winner!!! Paint was pretty much no existant. Thanks guys
Motor is a 97 spec
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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you got one hell of a deal. major props !

keep the entire engine, don't waste your time building a time bomb unless you spend the money to keep that b20 alive with real sleeves.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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the green paint its really rare, not all head have it
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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the green paint its really rare, not all head have it
it's usually just worn off
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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you can bbbbaaaarrreeellllyyyyy see it on mine.....


but its there!!
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
you got one hell of a deal. major props !

keep the entire engine, don't waste your time building a time bomb unless you spend the money to keep that b20 alive with real sleeves.
waattt, im pretty sure theres a big thread in the all motor section with people running some pretty big setups on stock sleeves. Done right stock sleeves on a b20 are fine
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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starting a new thread still need yall guys help with this!!!!
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 89vwfox
starting a new thread still need yall guys help with this!!!!
*pulls out spoon*

Originally Posted by Dogginator

Casting Stamp:
Casting Date:
Intake Side:
Exhaust Side:
Top:
Bottom:
Cam Caps:
Intake Port Showing ITR Valves and Porting:
Cylinder 1:
Cylinder 2:
Cylinder 3:
Cylinder 4:
Originally Posted by Dogginator
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6hatch94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it say p73 anywhere ?? willing to drop it off ? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

None of the ITR heads are marked with P73. They start life as a B16 casting, so they say PR3-X, where X is 1 through 4. The GSR is a unique casting, so it is marked P72.

Here are some identity threads from the Integra Type R Forum:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553446
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=53660
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=112096
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SpEeDyX
waattt, im pretty sure theres a big thread in the all motor section with people running some pretty big setups on stock sleeves. Done right stock sleeves on a b20 are fine
yep, they run. if an engine only needs to run for a few races or a short period of time. all stock b20 bottom ends i have seen that spin over 8,000 fly apart fast if you try road racing and might, might make it a year of drag racing if you go a couple times a month. if you gram balanced one and upgraded the rods it would be a considerable improvement but the sleeve walk still is going to cause issues in extended high rpm use. the b18c isn't perfect but it is stronger than a b20
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Look at my other thread titled ITR motor worked for two days then shut off
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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found the green mark yesterday got my answer this thread is ooovvver check out my other thread
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