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96 spec-r B18c vs K20 type S what to choose???

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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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Default 96 spec-r B18c vs K20 type S what to choose???

Whats up guys.. I own a 96 coupe ek and im gettin ready to do a swap.. For one I'm a die hard type R guy .. But i been going back n forth on either to swap k20 Aspec motor or a 96 spec-r B18 what do you guys suggest..
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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if you have the cash go for the k20
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:57 AM
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if you are doing the swap on your own. then go for b-series but if you have all the tools (dremel and welder) or taking it too the shop. then go H. lolz
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 01:08 AM
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no offense but forget h... Dont like that motor
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 01:39 AM
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H-series aren't very popular.
B or K is the way 2 go
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 03:41 AM
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IMO, the B-series is much more user friendly. The K will give you more starting and overall power but will leave your wallet with less money. The B will give you a enough power to have fun with and parts are cheaper.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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Go with the K if you can afford it. 96 spec B18C would be pretty lame in comparison. Especially if you're using the 4.4 final tranny.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 06:24 AM
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i want to hear the reason why u dont like a H swap, must better then B-series more hp & tq and cost pretty much the same. And for how much a k20 swap will cost it wont u could make a H22 so much faster with less money. i call it the K20 killer, H2B swap. but everyone has there own way of doing things so that my opinion. good luck with ur Ek coupe.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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Depends on what you like doing with your car. If you're into circuit racing or auto-x or gymkhana then an H series isn't ideal as Hondas with torque don't like to turn. However if you're into drag racing then you can't go wrong with a motor that starts its life out as a 2.2L
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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I mean h motors are not bad at all i mean they are badass motor.. but remember the motor is more heavier and i still i have to do some custom work to put it in because is a huge motor bearly leaving any space for me to work on.... 96 spec r b18 is already bring 200 right off the bat... Intake, headers, exhuast, camgears, camshaft, a couple of fuel mods with a good tune i should be making like 250 to 260 to wheels.. I just dont like that huge motor on it..
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 01:17 AM
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I mean h motors are not bad at all i mean they are badass motor.. but remember the motor is more heavier and i still i have to do some custom work to put it in because is a huge motor bearly leaving any space for me to work on.... 96 spec r b18 is already bring 200 right off the bat... Intake, headers, exhuast, camgears, camshaft, a couple of fuel mods with a good tune i should be making like 250 to 260 to wheels.. I just dont like that huge motor on it..
Your numbers are a bit inflated. A freshly rebuilt '96 spec B18C might make 200 at the crank but it ain't making 200 at the wheels.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 02:10 AM
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i want to hear the reason why u dont like a H swap, must better then B-series more hp & tq and cost pretty much the same. And for how much a k20 swap will cost it wont u could make a H22 so much faster with less money. i call it the K20 killer, H2B swap. but everyone has there own way of doing things so that my opinion. good luck with ur Ek coupe.
LMAO
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If you can K series would be better, More available locally ( can get them easily at junk yard ). and more potential down the road with a hybrid ( example k24 bottom with k20 head ) or other great examples. Newer motors still produced

But for fun and saving some cash I would go with the B series. ( downside these motors have not been produced in atleast 10 years )

the K series swap == in the 6 to 10 thousand

the b18c5 96 spec == in the $ 5000

I personally would go GSR and then add one goodies down the road, that suit your wants ( example if you want NA, get cams and valvetrain ) . or boost setup.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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yeah thats the thing the k are def more expensive... But my discussion was because im die hard type R fan, so that was my discussion... And yeah im going all na
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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go with B series.....
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Go k-series if you have the means to pay for it. Don't use the credit card to pay for it.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Ive seen this same thread so many times. I've tried both. in stock form B is cheaper and easier. K has a better power range, more torque everwhere and a 6 speed. You get what you pay for.

Im guessing though that you won't end up doing either of these swaps.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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wtf of course i will would why would have even botter to make these thread... The thing is im getting the b18 spec-r for 3600 complete ready to jump in the car... when if i get a k20 ima have to spend like 6 grand on the swap just to get the car running...
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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2003 k20a type R motor compared to a 96 b18c type R? and you seriously don't know which one to choose?

Sorry to say it but this thread is going to get locked because its a K vs B type of thread again which we all know will lead to great arguments about how one is better than the other.. (sarcasm) -_-
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 93civicSi_Hatch
i want to hear the reason why u dont like a H swap, must better then B-series more hp & tq and cost pretty much the same. And for how much a k20 swap will cost it wont u could make a H22 so much faster with less money. i call it the K20 killer, H2B swap. but everyone has there own way of doing things so that my opinion. good luck with ur Ek coupe.
I tend to disagree... you must have a H series swap... If i was swapping and had money I would do the K series, if you are looking for an easier swap then go with a B series... B series is easy to come by for parts and what not due to the fact that B series parts interchange and have more possibilities depending on how much power you are after... if something breaks, it's also easier to fix...
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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thats true i mean ive been around plenty of 9 to 8 seconds b series and 1000hp k's but remember we are not talking bout to regular b series... We are talking bout jspec 96spec-r b18c is 200 to the crank wow the rsx is 20 hp more but u know how much money i have to spend in swapping then buying parts.... And how they say if it breaks god knows how much more i have to spend...
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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this is the car is going in.... what do you guys think...
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by javifunksEK
thats true i mean ive been around plenty of 9 to 8 seconds b series and 1000hp k's but remember we are not talking bout to regular b series... We are talking bout jspec 96spec-r b18c is 200 to the crank wow the rsx is 20 hp more but u know how much money i have to spend in swapping then buying parts.... And how they say if it breaks god knows how much more i have to spend...

Seems like you answered your own question.

Go b series. " it aint a tight car if it aint a type R " hehe , Drop in and go for $ 3600 is great. Go for that and call it a day.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 02:33 AM
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I would also go with a b series engine. It is an easy swap. The K series swap is much more complicated and far more expensive.
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