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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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snap ring failed koni is sending new ones just figured id let people know this is possible and maintaining your car could save your life . i caught this before i hit a pothole on the fwy or had them fail mid turn. taking 10 mins to make sure everything looks right mechanicly might have saved my life!
after i sat the car back down the snap ring failed completely on the right side causing it to slide the coil sleeve perch down all the way almost . needless to say the tire was on the wheel well .
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 12:20 AM
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How old is this set up?
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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has less than 1000 miles on it. i just got my license back and been driving another car more than this one too.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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1000 miles? Brand new??? That **** looks like it is 10 years old!
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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I have about 30k on my set up and it doesn't look half as bad, does it snow where you live?
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Not the almighty Koni brand having a QC problem. Geez I thought only the JDM brands had those issues....
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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aren't you missing some parts? the rubber o ring for the ground controls, and the metal collar for the koni yellows? maybe those might have made a difference.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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that sucks, my em2 rear setup is like that with the circlip

had mine since august 09, I've put 16k+ miles on the koni/gc....I drive a lot, and mine still good

that must been scary, least your ok
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 01:16 AM
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aren't you missing some parts? the rubber o ring for the ground controls, and the metal collar for the koni yellows? maybe those might have made a difference.
No the Koni specific GC's capture the circlip by the sleeve itself, the I.D. is exactly machined to fit over the outside of the Konis snugly.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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Probably 1000 on his car. Who knows how long the previous owner had them.

That set looks pretty beat up for 1000 miles. GC's included.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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Yeah I have a set of GC's that have been on my car for more than 100k miles and they don't look half that bad. Lets just be glad the OP didn't have a serious accident.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 07:15 AM
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looks to me that those are not the right sleeves for that shock.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by civicjason
looks to me that those are not the right sleeves for that shock.
A picture of the inside of the sleeve will tell truth, to the benefit of OP and the community.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 01:35 AM
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ill disasemble the shock tomorow and see if maybe i was an idiot and put the sleeve on upside down somehow.. post picture by picture for you guys. yeah 1000s def. a understatement its about 3k at the very most.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by eklum
ill disasemble the shock tomorow and see if maybe i was an idiot and put the sleeve on upside down somehow.. post picture by picture for you guys. yeah 1000s def. a understatement its about 3k at the very most.
No more than 3000? Are you rallying your car in winter conditions?
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Install error looks like the cause. Glad you didn't wreck
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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When the GC sleeve is all the way down and seated on the circlip, you should not be able to see the circlip at all. It should completely capture and cover the circlip, which prevents the clip from slipping out of the groove. I would also like to know if perhaps you installed them upside down.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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You can install these sleeves upside down? Man, I better pay close attention when I install mine, if my damn Koni's ever show up! I ordered them on March 1st and still don't have them. Backorder FTL!
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Look like you're missing the collar sleeve.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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kudos to koni for backing their reputation and sending you a new set
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Default Re: koni yellow snap ring failure

Originally Posted by kaiba
Look like you're missing the collar sleeve.
eh? There are no additional parts used besides the Koni circlip and the GC sleeve. Are you referring to the rings that sit on the circlip when using the normal spring perches? If so, those are not used when mounting GC sleeves.

See the link in my sig showing proper GC/Koni assembly.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Default Re: koni yellow snap ring failure

Mine looks like yours but with an additional collar. I could take mine out from the car but don't feel like doing it.

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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kaiba
Mine looks like yours but with an additional collar. I could take mine out from the car but don't feel like doing it.
Additional collar? Where does it go? Are you sure you have Koni-specific GC's? Koni-specific sleeves should match the diameter of the Koni shock body exactly. You can use regular sleeves but you need an additional adapter. Maybe you're referring to this adapter ring?
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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This is what I'm referring to.
Not the best picture.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Default Re: koni yellow snap ring failure

Those are standard sleeves, not Koni-specific. That groove on the black ring is machined directly into the sleeve on the Koni-specific ones, and the ID of the sleeve is about 1/2" smaller than the ID of the standard sleeves.

And looking at the OP's pics again, it appears I can see the bottom of the machined groove in the first pic, which would indicated the OP did have them installed correctly (if they were fully seated). Crazy, I've never seen that happen before.
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