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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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so i have a 91 accord (yeah its me again with another question. only i actually looked on here a bit to see if there where any posts already about this and couldnt find any that fit my problem) and the brakes will feel fine at times and some times the pedal goes soft. i bled the front brakes and just a small air bubble came out. i did not have the time to do the rear brakes i added brake fluid after and that was just on sunday.
Everything felt fine after that but now today the same problem is happening so i checked the fluid and it was at about where i filled it. i pumped the brakes to see if there was a hole in a hose any where but could not see any fluids on the ground. so i dont know whats happening any help or leads to anything would be great. thanks
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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ok i really need you help now i was rebleeding my brakes just now and i had my sister pump the brakes for me i told her to hold it down and tell me when it hits the floor so after i loosen the bleeder. but when she was holding it down i heard a sound i dont know how else to describe it as a duck quaking kind of but not really it was longer and strung out but then she said it hit the floor before i even touched the bleeder. the sound sounded like it was coming from the the booster but i am not exactly sure. what do you think this is? HELP
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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OK the first thing you will do is to buy a new, NEW not a re manufactured Brake Master Cylinder from TAS. (I just got one from there for mine $65 I believe including shipping)
Then you will fallow there steps:
Step 1: watch this video, It will save me time to explain to you how to bleed the master cylinder,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trotrlIG2sk

Step 2: You will bleed the entire brake system fallowing the proper procedure: Start with Rear Passenger wheel, Front Driver Wheel, Rear Driver Wheel, Front Passenger Wheel.

Step 3: Come back to thank me latter, I just did this to my cb7, and WOW

By the way, bleeding only the front brakes is almost equal to a suicide on the road!!!

Latter!!!
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by L_U_D_I_AAccord
OK the first thing you will do is to buy a new, NEW not a re manufactured Brake Master Cylinder from TAS. (I just got one from there for mine $65 I believe including shipping)
Then you will fallow there steps:
Step 1: watch this video, It will save me time to explain to you how to bleed the master cylinder,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trotrlIG2sk

Step 2: You will bleed the entire brake system fallowing the proper procedure: Start with Rear Passenger wheel, Front Driver Wheel, Rear Driver Wheel, Front Passenger Wheel.

Step 3: Come back to thank me latter, I just did this to my cb7, and WOW

By the way, bleeding only the front brakes is almost equal to a suicide on the road!!!

Latter!!!


Change parts before checking the problem, excellent advice
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by L_U_D_I_AAccord
OK the first thing you will do is to buy a new, NEW not a re manufactured Brake Master Cylinder from TAS. (I just got one from there for mine $65 I believe including shipping)
Then you will fallow there steps:
Step 1: watch this video, It will save me time to explain to you how to bleed the master cylinder,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trotrlIG2sk

Step 2: You will bleed the entire brake system fallowing the proper procedure: Start with Rear Passenger wheel, Front Driver Wheel, Rear Driver Wheel, Front Passenger Wheel.

Step 3: Come back to thank me latter, I just did this to my cb7, and WOW

By the way, bleeding only the front brakes is almost equal to a suicide on the road!!!

Latter!!!
Thanks i will most likely end up doing this.

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Change parts before checking the problem, excellent advice
im sensing some sarcasm. but either way i should probably do this the car is getting old and i guarantee that that is the original one on there. probably about time
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by slomofo
Change parts before checking the problem, excellent advice
We have a comedian here!!! Our fellow member is asking for an advice not critics!!! we really appreciate your input


If i were you I would change the MC quick, before it starts to leak and flood the booster, then it will be a lot more pain in the a** to replace the booster and a lot more $$$$
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by L_U_D_I_AAccord
We have a comedian here!!! Our fellow member is asking for an advice not critics!!! we really appreciate your input


If i were you I would change the MC quick, before it starts to leak and flood the booster, then it will be a lot more pain in the a** to replace the booster and a lot more $$$$
where do i get said part? or what does MC abbreviate for? sorry i have never had to really deal with brakes
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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here is the direct link

http://www.tasauto.com/Product/Detai...101&d=1604&p=1

or

http://www.tasauto.com/Product/Browse.aspx?d=1604&p=1

make sure you select the correct part for your car with or without ABS

I got the $60 one and so far it works great.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by L_U_D_I_AAccord
We have a comedian here!!! Our fellow member is asking for an advice not critics!!! we really appreciate your input


If i were you I would change the MC quick, before it starts to leak and flood the booster, then it will be a lot more pain in the a** to replace the booster and a lot more $$$$
You realize that over time, brake fluid attracts water right? Assuming his fluid hasn't been changed in awhile it's probably a combination of air in the system and water.

The OP needs to do a PROPER bleeding procedure (what you did was incorrect) before replacing any parts. That is the worst advice I have ever heard.

Get nice fresh brake fluid - not the **** sitting on your shelf for 3 years and do a correct flush in the proper bleeding order.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mutiny93
where do i get said part? or what does MC abbreviate for? sorry i have never had to really deal with brakes
Go pay to have someone do a correct flush - if you don't know what you're doing you are not going to do it as good as you should.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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Also if you know for sure its your Master Cylinder, source your part number from one of the OEM parts provider and check on ebay. I believe I bought my MC (Master cylinder) for $40
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Eh, for something that's $120ish brand new from a local dealer I'd spring for that.

Most likely if you paid less than that is is an OEM equivalent or rebuilt/re-manufactured/used one.

I had to replace mine due to leaking seals - a weak pedal is not reason to replace it.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Proper bleed order for 4th gen is left rear, right front, right rear, left front.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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just thought i would let every one know that today when i got home from a trip i see a box sitting on my front step and there is my new MC installed it asap and bleed the brakes the right way and now my brakes work perfect thanks everyone
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